Dragan (Stranger)
03-06-03 13:25
No 414271
      Toulene  Bookmark   

What the different between Toulen Pa and Tolune HPLC. Toulen HPLC cost 80% more. Will swim get better results with HPLC?
 
 
 
 
    pHarmacist
(Hive Addict)
03-06-03 13:32
No 414272
      HPLC  Bookmark   

To apply High Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC) is a method (in this case) to obtain ultra-pure toluene. HPLC has many applications including separation, identification, purification, and quantification of various compounds...

I guess you are using toluene as a solvent in some meth related procedure.. HPLC-grade-toluene is a waste in that case...

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    Barium
(Hive Addict)
03-06-03 15:01
No 414291
      HPLC  Bookmark   

P.a. stands for pro analysi (for analysis), analytical grade. Youīll se a long list of the impurities and how much of each. Toluene HPLC means that this solvent meant to be used for HPLC. It has not been purified by HPLC at all. HPLC is not for purification. Itīs a analytical method.

What would you need the toluene for? Is it a reagent or solvent? If itīs a reagent then you want a purer grade. To be used as a common solvent, go for the cheapest possible.

Freaky
 
 
 
 
    pHarmacist
(Hive Addict)
03-06-03 15:32
No 414297
      Thank you Barium  Bookmark   

I thought that it was purified by HPLC.

But:

>HPLC is not for purification.

Isn't it? I thought that HPLC could be used for purification as well..

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
03-06-03 16:01
No 414303
      HPLC toluene  Bookmark   

Preparative HPLC is possible, but it is seldom used even in research, as it it slow and you can only push through a certain number of milligrams a day in such a machine.

HPLC toluene is toluene fit for use as mobile phase when running other things through the column.
 
 
 
 
    foxy2
(Distinctive Doe)
03-07-03 05:43
No 414486
      Preparative HPLC is possible, but it is seldom  Bookmark   

Preparative HPLC is possible, but it is seldom used even in research, as it it slow and you can only push through a certain number of milligrams a day in such a machine.

Actually it is quite commonly used for the purification of large bioactive proteins.  Even at production scales, protiens like IGG has a HPLC purification step.  I've seen pics of 0.5 meter diameter HPLC columns.
Check this out
http://www.lcgceurope.com/lcgceurope/data/articlestandard/lcgceurope/202002/19103/article.pdf

They even have continuously running HPLC systems.  It involves a series of coulmns and valves that can bee switched such that the separation is continuous.  I'm not sure if there are any actually in a pharmaceutical production process. Probably not because of the validation and cleanliness issues of such a system.  Plus batch processing is pretty ingrained in the pharmaceutical field.
 
 
 
 
    Kinetic
(Hive Bee)
03-07-03 22:59
No 414667
      HPLC  Bookmark   

A general HPLC solvent question then:

I remember reading that Zealot uses chromatograph grade solvents for water sensitive reactions, and said they didn't need to be dried because they were already dry enough. Could this be possible, even for highly sensitive compounds such as Grignards? I can get some HPLC solvents quite cheap, and would much rather use HPLC grade ethers and other solvents (DCM is particularly reasonable smile) than the ridiculously expensive 'anhydrous grade'.
 
 
 
 
    foxy2
(Distinctive Doe)
03-07-03 23:26
No 414674
      I can get some HPLC solvents quite cheap, and...  Bookmark   

I can get some HPLC solvents quite cheap, and would much rather use HPLC grade ethers and other solvents (DCM is particularly reasonable smile ) than the ridiculously expensive 'anhydrous grade'.


Probably, as long as the bottle is unopened.  If I was needing anhydrous reagents I would just pick up some molecular sieves and bee sure they are dry.  If you want to get even drier there are refs in tfse and at rhodiums page which detail the appropriate drying agents for various solvents(ie P2O5 ect).  Molecular sieves are the cleanest and easiest general drying agent.
 
 
 
 
    Kinetic
(Hive Bee)
03-08-03 00:04
No 414685
      Thought so  Bookmark   

Thanks foxy, that was what I was expecting to hear. If I was going to perform a Grignard I think I'd still dry the solvent using traditional methods, at least the first time. I had just wondered if 'HPLC grade' products had to meet a certain specification (and therefore a maximum water content), in the same way USP grade products must meet the standards set.
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
03-08-03 23:13
No 414879
      foxy: I was referring to organic synthesis.  Bookmark   

foxy: I was referring to organic synthesis. For the purification of proteins and other enzymes in small quantities, most any method is used, even electrophoresis. But you still only do it in microscale.