pickler (Greenhorn)
10-31-03 22:02
No 468030
      Glacial acetic acid     

Swim has been out of the mix for awhile and was curious about GAA. Read somewhere that it's watched pretty good now? Is this a don't order item or is it still cool to order?

I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin

 
 
 
 
    chemisfun
(Hive Bee)
11-01-03 08:25
No 468074
      Swim ordered a ltr 12 months ago without ...     

Swim ordered a ltr 12 months ago without problems. 

I think it is anhydrous AA that is one of the big chems for making heroin.
 
 
 
 
    calcium
(Hive Bee)
11-01-03 13:44
No 468114
      photo shop     

I walked in to the photography store, asked if they sold photo chems which, of course they did. Asked for GAA, which they had to order from the warehouse but would have next week. No phone #, no i.d., no problem. I just had to stress that I didn't want the dilute stuff they had behind the counter. One U.S. gallon for $25.00.
 
 
 
 
    Midi
(Hive Bee)
11-01-03 17:22
No 468132
      ez     

you musta really been out the mix pickler wink

GAA is as easy to get as NaOH.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00749A
 
 
 
 
    pickler
(Greenhorn)
11-01-03 21:37
No 468173
      Been out of the loop for about six months.     

Been out of the loop for about six months. Not a long time, but better safe than sorry. Swim just feels sorry for all the noobs looking for sassy oil.frown

I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin

 
 
 
 
    midway
(Hive Bee)
11-01-03 23:57
No 468191
      SWIM found GAA in photo stores on the shelf. .     

SWIM found GAA in photo stores on the shelf. . . should be easy to find if you read labels.
 
 
 
 
    gruns
(Hive Bee)
11-02-03 09:27
No 468263
      glacier     

I read once about a technique of purifying acetic was dripping cold dilute on a seed crystal, forming a "glacier" ... Does anybody have a way of getting a seed crystal from 5%?  40%?

over and under, then back to the start
this sidewalk's bottom is the same as its top
 
 
 
 
    halfkast
(Hive Bee)
11-02-03 14:36
No 468296
      >>Swim just feels sorry for all the...     

>>Swim just feels sorry for all the noobs looking for sassy oil.

Why? Why looks for it? There is plenty of sassafras oil in Oz, and plenty of noobies im sure.

I feel sorry for those affraid to get they're hands dirty in the name of science.

You don't need 2 Bee High to follow the goings-on @The-Hive--Just Addikted!
 
 
 
 
    politoxicomania
(Newbee)
11-03-03 01:36
No 468404
      Glacial Acetic Acid     

Kp 118°C F 16°C nD 1,3720 D 1,05
mixable with water
impurities: Acetaldehyd
Purifikation and Drying :
for most applications it is enough to crystallize the Acetic Acid. Cool down to 3-4°C. Filter trough ice cold büchner funnel and collect the cristals. Further purification by refluxing with 2-5% potassiumpermanganat and additional destillation. Perhaps shaking with phospourous(V)oxid to dry and again destillation.
Danger: Air-Acid mix 4% explosive. Prevent contact with skin.
First Aid: Wash with Water.
 
 
 
 
    abolt
(Hive Addict)
11-03-03 03:19
No 468417
      SSSHHHH     

There is plenty of sassafras oil in Oz, and plenty of noobies im sure.

Not for much longer if people keep Blabbing about it in public forums.

"Every man invested with power is apt to abuse it." -Montesquieu
 
 
 
 
    moo
(Hive Bee)
11-03-03 03:59
No 468425
      Perhaps shaking with phospourous(V)oxid to dry     

Perhaps shaking with phospourous(V)oxid to dry and again destillation.

This not only dries the GAA, it also dehydrates it to acetic anhydride, so it's a little too harsh way to dry GAA.

fear fear hate hate
 
 
 
 
    hellman
(Soothsayer)
11-03-03 06:15
No 468437
      Hey, I live in Oz, And it just cannot be ...     

Hey, I live in Oz,

And it just cannot be bought anywhere,
I am sure that if you look hard enough over here, you will find that it just doesn't exist-smile
I import it, in wine bottles from India,.
?#??#

I went down to the depot of evolution, and ordered the man to supply me enough, to last a lifetime..
 
 
 
 
    halfkast
(Hive Bee)
11-03-03 08:26
No 468456
      abolt, hellman. Please, surely you must have...     

abolt, hellman.

Please, surely you must have realised I was referring to our beautiful flora. I've never planned on ever buying sassafras oil.

I know places where much exists, I have always known.

You don't need 2 Bee High to follow the goings-on @The-Hive--Just Addikted!
 
 
 
 
    politoxicomania
(Newbee)
11-03-03 20:05
No 468514
      Perhaps shaking with phospourous(V)oxid to dry     

Perhaps shaking with phospourous(V)oxid to dry and again destillation.

This not only dries the GAA, it also dehydrates it to acetic anhydride, so it's a little too harsh way to dry GAA.


Perhaps.. but i dont think this would be written as a purification step if the anhydrid will form. On the other hand it would be nice for those serching a way to prepare AceticAnhydrid. And why the hell one should destill after shaking with phosphour(V)oxid ?
And another problem : why spend so expensive chemicals just to dry acetic acid.