Bwiti (Hive Addict)
11-06-01 21:19
No 233837
      Aldehydes From Ozone  Bookmark   

  I know that if ozone is passed through a solution of acetic acid, H2O and isosafrole, piperonal is produced in very good yields(US2916499), but does anyone know for sure if this will work on apiole or myristicin? Peace!cool

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-06-01 21:21
No 233839
      Re: Aldehydes From Ozone  Bookmark   

It won't, propenylbenzenes must be used, not allylbenzenes. Isomerize them first.
 
 
 
 
    Bwiti
(Hive Addict)
11-06-01 21:29
No 233844
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  Oops! Remind me to hit myself in the head with a tack hammer -> I meant, would it work on the propenylbenzenes made from apiole or myristicin? I'm asking this, because the patent didn't mention them specifically. It said that compounds with ethylenic groups can be used, but just to be safe, I want to know if anyone's tried this on the above propenylbenzenes in their dreams?

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-06-01 21:41
No 233854
      Re: Aldehydes From Ozone  Bookmark   

I am sure the reaction would work just as well with those.
 
 
 
 
    Aurelius
(Newbee)
11-08-01 02:46
No 234355
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do they mention the use of zinc in that reaction?
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-08-01 02:52
No 234359
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They should, as the intermediate ozonide must be reductively cleaved to form the aldehyde.
 
 
 
 
    Bwiti
(Hive Addict)
11-08-01 09:11
No 234496
      Re: Aldehydes From Ozone  Bookmark   

  No zinc. It says, "This process requires no reduction step and yields are unexpectedly high.", and everything I've read tells me that no cluster-fuck occurred in the writing of it.
  The patent mentions that other methods that use ozonolysis only give yields of less than 75%, and all of them reqire a reduction. -> That info's on page 1, at the end of paragraph 3. You can find the patent at http://gb.espacenet.com/
  Good yields and no reduction; not bad for a patent from 1959!cool

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