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Why wont this work? (MeNO2) :))
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Sorry for dumb question but couldnt help asking it<img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/blush.gif" alt="blush" title="Blush" heigth="15" width="15"><br><br>CH<sub>3</sub>OH + HNO<sub>3</sub> + H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub> ->MeNO<sub>2</sub><br><br>Bubbling gaseous CH<sub>4</sub> :<br><br>CH<sub>4</sub> + HNO<sub>3</sub> + H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub> ->MeNO<sub>2</sub><br><br>Yes,these look too simple to work :)<br>But hell,i`m just curious why these procedures wont work??? :) No i`m serious:) Hellish temp and pressure?<img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"><br><hr>Everybody in the house with a half an ounce <br>Not weed I meant coke dumb ass sit down!
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<font color="#FF0033">Rhodium</font><br>
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<span title="Posting date">12-02-01 22:27</span><br>
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CH3OH + HNO3 => CH3-O-NO2 <br><br>Nitric acid forms an ester with methanol (methyl nitrate), which is a high explosive, similar to nitroglycerin. It will not make nitromethane. <br><br>The second reaction is only useful in industrial settings, due to temperatures and pressures used.
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PolytheneSam<br>
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<span title="Posting date">12-02-01 22:34</span><br>
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<b title="The subject of this post">Re: Why wont this work? (MeNO2) :))</b>
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I'll have to translate it so I can read it. HTML is off.<br><br>CH<sub>3</sub>OH + HNO<sub>3</sub> + H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub>->MeNO<sub>2</sub><br><br>Bubbling gaseous CH<sub>4</sub> :<br><br>CH<sub>4</sub> + HNO<sub>3</sub> + H<sub>2</sub>SO<sub>4</sub>->MeNO<sub>2</sub><br><br>Methane is highly inert in the second process. Maybe it would work at high temperature with a catalyst, but I've never seen anything like it.<br><hr>http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF.<wbr>html
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Chemikaze<br>
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<span title="Posting date">12-03-01 15:55</span><br>
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<b title="The subject of this post">Re: Why wont this work? (MeNO2) :))</b>
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Ok thanks.<br><br>One more (last one:) question - will this be possible then?<br>CH<sub>2</sub>I<sub>2</sub> or CH<sub>2</sub>Br<sub>2</sub> and NaNO2, well with presence of smth that could give H<sub>2</sub>?<img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/crazy.gif" alt="crazy" title="Crazy" heigth="15" width="15"><br><br>Yeah i know looks stupid...:)<br><hr>Everybody in the house with a half an ounce <br>Not weed I meant coke dumb ass sit down!
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<span title="Posting date">12-03-01 19:08</span><br>
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Ehh, still trying to make nitromethane? I don't think anyone else bothers because it is so easy to buy. Now if it were nitroethane you wanted that would be different and there are threads here on making nitroethane using sodium nitrite and either ethyl halide or ethyl sulfate.
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Chemikaze<br>
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<span title="Posting date">12-04-01 10:16</span><br>
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Heh,yeah i know...but in my part of the world buying nitro is not easy.it`s not used anywhere...i`m not us resident actually<br><hr>Everybody in the house with a half an ounce <br>Not weed I meant coke dumb ass sit down!
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<font color="blue">but in my part of the world buying nitro is not easy.it`s not used anywhere</font color="blue"><br>So, (just taking a guess as to why you want nitromethane) perhaps you should try making methylamine from ammonium chloride and formaldehyde.
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<blockquote title="Quoted text"><hr><p>perhaps you should try making methylamine from ammonium chloride and formaldehyde. <p><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Gawd no, he wants nitromethane specifically.... i know him<img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="Wink" heigth="15" width="15"><br>i think it was you who once asked me the same question, no?<br><br>Antoncho
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Perhaps you Ruskies should check this out.<br><br>Nitromethane manufacture from sodium nitrite in the presence of methyl esters acting as methylation agents. <br>Gareev, G. A.; Pershin, N. S.; Bovt, V. V. (Russia). Russ. (1999), <br>RU 2138478 C1 19990927 Patent written in Russian.<br><br><br>Process for the continuous manufacture of nitromethane from dimethyl sulfate and sodium nitrite using a three-reactor cascade. <br>Gareev, G. A.; Svirskaya, L. G.; Pershin, N. S.; Men'shov, V. N. (Russia). Russ. (1998),<br>RU 2109728 C1 19980427 Patent written in Russian.<br><br><br>Production of nitromethane from dimethyl sulfate and sodium nitrite. <br>Gareev, Gegel A.; Svirskaya, Liana G.; Pershin, Nikolaj S. (Gareev, Gegel A., Russia; Svirskaya, Liana G.; Pershin, Nikolaj S.). Russ. (1997), <br>RU 2076094 C1 19970327 Patent written in Russian.<br><br><br><hr>Do Your Part To Win The War
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