ChemicalSolution
(Hive Bee) 04-03-02 08:07 No 291746 |
OTC allylbenzene from moth balls | Bookmark | ||||||
Julia will not sleep until some clandestine chemist takes advantage of the wide availability of relatively pure p-dichloro benzene. How about a Grignard in THF (THF since, when X-Cl, it takes a bit more activation energy). Now, quench this Grignard reagent and the chemist has chlorobenzene. The chemist now makes another Grignard reagent with chlorobenzene and adds allylchloride... Poof... Allylbenzene.. Don't ask Julia for any references on this.. It was purely a hypothetical, uneducated mental masturbation. xoxo Julia |
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foxy2 (Distinctive Doe) 04-03-02 13:57 No 291830 |
yes but........ | Bookmark | ||||||
Even if t works, 4-chloroamphetamines are Neurotoxic Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety |
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PrimoPyro (Sector G) 04-03-02 14:27 No 291835 |
Reread Her Idea | Bookmark | ||||||
If it worked, it wouldn't produce 4-chloro derivatives. She first takes the dichlorobenzene, PhCl2, and forms a monogrignard, ClPhMgCl, then reduces the grignard reagent with acid to form ClPhH, a.k.a. PhCl, chlorobenzene. Then a second grignard is formed, PhMgCl, and this is reacted with allyl chloride, forming allyl-benzene + MgCl2. I personally don't think it will work, but this is the idea as I understand it. PrimoPyro Vivent Longtemps La Ruche! |
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Tricky (Stranger) 04-03-02 15:17 No 291844 |
Off-topic. | Bookmark | ||||||
Julia, use Arecoline instead allyl chloride and you'll get more interesting stuff than allyl-benzene. Matrix... may tricks? |
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ChemicalSolution (Hive Bee) 04-05-02 08:23 No 292724 |
Primo | Bookmark | ||||||
That was EXACTLY what SWIM was talking about.. Taking one of the Cl atoms off by forming/quenching the grignard reagent... Now the chemist has chlorobenzene.. This should work in forming the Grignard reagent although more activation energy is required since this is a Cl atom and not a Br atom. Julia |
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Hansje (Hive Bee) 04-05-02 20:22 No 292894 |
Bromide=better | Bookmark | ||||||
I don't think chlorobenzene will form a grignard at all. It may be possible to turn it into bromobenzene by means of a saturated solution of NaBr in acetone. Hansje high in proteine and fibre! |
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foxy2 (Distinctive Doe) 04-05-02 21:19 No 292926 |
p-dichlorobenzene to chlorobenzene then to benzene | Bookmark | ||||||
Photoreductive dechlorination of chlorinated benzene derivatives catalyzed by ZnS nanocrystallites. Chem. Commun. (Cambridge) (1998), (24), 2683-2684. Abstract ZnS nanocrystallites effectively enhanced photoredn. of chlorinated benzene derivs. in the presence of triethylamine as a sacrificial electron donor under UV irradn. (l > 300 nm), leading to selective and stepwise dechlorination to give benzene at the final stage. Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 04-05-02 21:37 No 292931 |
Chlorobenzene grignard | Bookmark | ||||||
See the ultrasonic grignard document at my page. |
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Aurelius (Hive Bee) 04-06-02 04:09 No 293081 |
Finkelstein | Bookmark | ||||||
Hey Hansje, the Finkelstein swap can't be done for aromatic substituted halogens only aliphatic. |
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Hansje (Hive Bee) 04-06-02 09:22 No 293183 |
sorry | Bookmark | ||||||
Should have looked that up before posting. Sorry! Hansje high in proteine and fibre! |
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