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U.S. Patent 808,095 uses an Mn salt called mangano-ammonium sulfate in+ACY-nbsp+ADs- H2SO4/H20 to convert+ACY-nbsp+ADs- toluene to benzaldehyde. The Mnammonium sulfate used in the patent is produced by the electrolysis Mnammonium sulfate. I'm not interested in passing a current through a solution to produce this, so what other method can be used? I remember reading somewhere that plain-old manganese(II)sulfate can be converted to the Mn salt and used to convert toluene to benzaldehyde. Assuming that this is true, here's my big question: How can I use KMnO4 to convert the Mnsulfate to Mnsulfate? Or better yet, could Mnacetate be used instead? Btw, could U.S. 808095 be applied to benzene? 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thanks+ACE- I'm thinking I could let a solution of acetic acid, a little H2SO4, and 30+ACU- H2O2 sit for 12 hours, add the Mnammonium sulfate, then wait for the Mn salt to drop out of solution.. Should I replicate what was done in the benzaldehyde patent, by adding the Mn salt to dilute sulfuric before adding the toluene/benzene? Yeah, working with KMnO4/Mn(II)acetate would be easier+ADs- Any reasons why Mn(III)acetate wouldn't produce benzaldehyde? 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