politoxicomania (Hive Bee)
11-07-03 23:21
No 469518
      2-CMT 1H-NMR DATA     

Ok  here is what i found:

For d,l Carbomethoxytropinone i found a wonderful NMR spectrum.  2-CMT in d6Aceton shows following peaks:
strong singulett at 1.650 mixed with aceton at 1.655
strong duplett at 2.000
singulett at  3.200
another strong singulett at 6.00
there are much impurities  but a specifical  triplett with 4J coupling is observed at 4.5

Anyone out ther who have Lit. about NMR data ?
 
 
 
 
    pHarmacist
(pHantasticant)
11-20-03 04:37
No 471875
      good estimate generated with ChemOffice 2004     

Anyways I generated this with the afro-mentioned software, hope it throws some light on whatever the problem is...



http://www.bassdrive.com/BassDrive.m3u
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-20-03 08:38
No 471907
      good compared to what?     

good estimate

I'd say that estimate sucks - you get the correct number of peaks and the approximate splitting of the peaks, but you will seldom get the peak's more than within ±1 ppm accuracy using ChemOffice.
 
 
 
 
    pHarmacist
(pHantasticant)
11-20-03 13:21
No 471954
      was refering to the output: Estimation ...     

was refering to the output:

Estimation Quality: blue = good, magenta = medium, red = rough

http://www.bassdrive.com/BassDrive.m3u
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-20-03 14:10
No 471966
      2-Carbomethoxy-3-tropinone Proton NMR     

That's what the program says, but compare that to the actual experimentally determined literature values:

(R)-(+)-2-Carbomethoxy-3-tropinone Proton NMR, Identical for the (S)-(-)-isomer.
Ref: J. Med. Chem. 37, 2001-2010 (1994)

1H-NMR (100 MHz, CDCl3) 1.5-2.4 (m, 7H), 2.32 (s, 3H), 2.75 (m, 1H), 3.32 (t, 1H), 3.75 (s, 3H).
 
 
 
 
    politoxicomania
(Hive Bee)
11-20-03 19:39
No 472022
      Great Compound but not 2-CMT     

To pharma.... : Look at your Molecule u postet above..
is it 2-carbomethoxitropinone ??
No!

I also have gNMR and Chem office and i dont want these computed spectrums cause they are unbelievable in respect to the keto-enol tautomerie.

to rhodium: can u please make the above mentioned artikle viewable cause i have no possibility to get this medical journal in our chemical bib.

thanks in advance....
 
 
 
 
    pHarmacist
(pHantasticant)
11-21-03 16:37
No 472260
      :)     

For Carbomethoxytropinone i found a wonderful NMR spectrum. [Bla.. Bla.. Bla..]

To pharma.... : Look at your Molecule u postet above..
is it 2-carbomethoxitropinone ??
No!


laugh

http://www.bassdrive.com/BassDrive.m3u
 
 
 
 
    politoxicomania
(Hive Bee)
05-06-04 21:11
No 505368
      1-H-NMR at 200MHz of pure 2-CMT in D2O     

After purification of 2-CMT (several sublimations at 1*10E-3mbar) i found this:



Semms to be mainly the keto - form.
After a week the solution turned yellow, but no more NMR-spektra.... sorry

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    _mu_
(Hive Bee)
05-07-04 00:30
No 505414
      I've seen 200 MHZ NMR spectra that were much...     

I've seen 200 MHZ NMR spectra that were much cleaner. IIRC, at 200 MHz, you can see splittings of 5+ HZ. You sure didn't overconcentrate your sample?
 
 
 
 
    politoxicomania
(Hive Bee)
05-07-04 18:37
No 505615
      CHNS analyse     

N = 7,33%
C = 61,07%
H = 7,66 %

The solution was very low concentration as u can see much H2O in relativly new D2O.

I think that ther are 90% of the Keto -form  and only 10%enol-form .