anethole to 2,5 bimethoxybenzaldehyde? , Hive Chemistry Discourse
 
    Grignard 09-09-04 14:03
      <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=530531&page=1&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">anethole to 2,5 bimethoxybenzaldehyde?</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: UTFSE!)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post530620"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> Grignard<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">09-10-04 03:40</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [530620]">No 530620</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">yes TFSE doesnt answer anything!</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> yes TFSE doesnt answer anything on isosafrole from anethole..someone dosent take the time to read the qestion..my english is a litle bad so i dont think i got the real point here..sorry.. but why is this not possible? </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post530625"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> Nicodem<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">09-10-04 04:44</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [530625]">No 530625</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">anyone tryed this synth?</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> <font color="blue">anyone tryed this synth?</font color="blue"><br><br>I doubt sombee bothered with it since 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde is more easily accessible from hydroquinone->p-MeO-phenol->2-hydr<wbr>oxy-5-Me<wbr>O-benzal<wbr>dehyde-><wbr>2,5-d<wbr>iMeO-ben<wbr>zaldehyd<wbr>e. You would have to go trough p-MeO-phenol anyway so it doesn't make much sense oxidizing anethole and then performing a Bayer-Villiger reaction just to get something you can get from hydroquinone in one step. I might be wrong though and somebee might have done that.<br><br><font color="blue">would like to make some 2-cb but i have tryed this kloroform reaction to methoxy before without sucess</font color="blue"><br><br>How is anybody going to understand this? Can't you at least use reaction names, post links or references? At least out of politeness if not for the sake of being understood. Are you talking about the Reimer-Tiemann formylation?<br><br><font color="blue">Is it possible to make isosafrole from the anethole without damaging the double bond on the isopropene?? any procedure to add methoxy directly to the benzene ring?</font color="blue"><br><br>No, UTFSE!<br><br>And a friendly advice: Next time you post a question, make it less cryptic so that everybee can underst it and make sure that it will show your effort in finding the answer by your own, either from literature, the net or by UTFSE. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>“The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post530620"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> Grignard<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">09-10-04 12:40</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [530620]">No 530620</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">yes TFSE doesnt answer anything!</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> yes TFSE doesnt answer anything on isosafrole from anethole..someone dosent take the time to read the qestion..my english is a litle bad so i dont think i got the real point here..sorry.. but why is this not possible? </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post530625"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> Nicodem<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">09-10-04 13:44</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [530625]">No 530625</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">anyone tryed this synth?</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> <font color="blue">anyone tryed this synth?</font color="blue"><br><br>I doubt sombee bothered with it since 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde is more easily accessible from hydroquinone->p-MeO-phenol->2-hydr<wbr>oxy-5-Me<wbr>O-benzal<wbr>dehyde-><wbr>2,5-d<wbr>iMeO-ben<wbr>zaldehyd<wbr>e. You would have to go trough p-MeO-phenol anyway so it doesn't make much sense oxidizing anethole and then performing a Bayer-Villiger reaction just to get something you can get from hydroquinone in one step. I might be wrong though and somebee might have done that.<br><br><font color="blue">would like to make some 2-cb but i have tryed this kloroform reaction to methoxy before without sucess</font color="blue"><br><br>How is anybody going to understand this? Can't you at least use reaction names, post links or references? At least out of politeness if not for the sake of being understood. Are you talking about the Reimer-Tiemann formylation?<br><br><font color="blue">Is it possible to make isosafrole from the anethole without damaging the double bond on the isopropene?? any procedure to add methoxy directly to the benzene ring?</font color="blue"><br><br>No, UTFSE!<br><br>And a friendly advice: Next time you post a question, make it less cryptic so that everybee can underst it and make sure that it will show your effort in finding the answer by your own, either from literature, the net or by UTFSE. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>“The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post535193"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="2" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> icexool<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-10-04 17:36</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [535193]">No 535193</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">I was just reading this ...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> I was just reading this <a href="http://rhodium.ws/chemistry/25-dimethoxybenzaldehyde.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">http://rhodium.ws/chemistry/25-dimethoxy<wbr>benzalde<wbr>hyde.htm<wbr>l</a><br><br>And I was wondering there was talked about nonylphenol, is this the same as phenol crystals.<br>And can I make 4-methoxyphenol.<br>Out of phenol and MeOH and Mg (which makes magnesium methoxide after refluxing it).<br>And then after I got 4-methoxyphenol I dissolve it in NaOH solution. Then added to that chloroform.<br>Then I get 2-hydroxy-5 methoxybenzaldehyde after refluxing and distilling it under reduced pressure, and acidifing it and extracting with toluene etc. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post535213"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="2" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> phenethyl_man<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-10-04 20:49</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [535213]">No 535213</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">no, nonylphenol has a nine carbon alkyl group...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> no, nonylphenol has a nine carbon alkyl group on the ring as well.  perhaps you should be posting this question in the "newbee" forum..<br><br>.. and no you wouldn't get 4-methoxyphenol from phenol in this formylation, you would get 2-hydroxybenzaldehyde.  Where is your methoxyl group coming from?  I suggest learning some basic chemistry before even attempting a synthesis such as this one. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><i>- phen<b>ethyl</b>man -</i></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post535231"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="1" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="1"> icexool<br> <span title="Posting date">10-10-04 22:50</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="1">  </td> <td rowspan="1" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=535231&page=0&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=yes&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">Well I'm learning, I'm just quite new to ...</a> </b><br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: off-topic)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>