Jubrail (Introspecter)
11-20-03 19:41
No 472138
      pfed extract. problems (I know)     

Well, swim is a phenthylamine and tryptamine type of guy, but decided to try something new (I thought this all looked pretty easy over here).  Problem is, I can't even get an extraction right.  I've done extractions from plants and pills before, but these red hots are a whole new ball game.  So I used VE's straight to E.  The only modifications I made were some improv. equipment like a crepe maker instead of a hotplate (my hotplate sparks when I plug it in) and I added a little extra solvent at one point because the crepe makers spent too long evapoorating solvent without beinging it to a boil.

Now, I still can't get the pink out.  It's much less, but it's on what should have been my product.  If any1 can help, it would be appreciated, even if it's a flame in the right direction. 

My question is, could I get a clean product by waiting for my filter cake to dry and putting it in with a naphtha/IPA mix and continuing the extraction a few times, then using xylene again?

Or is it hopeless at this point?

Rainbows & Butterflies Forever :)
 
 
 
 
    SPISSHAK
(Hive Addict)
11-20-03 23:09
No 472171
      each to his own     

SWINM uses ANHYDROUS (emphasize) isopropanol or ethanol, reflux twice, filter, evaporate reflux in acetone, xylene, and finally chloroform  mixed with acetone "livixiation(removes povidone) the CHCl3 wash turns it white.
 
 
 
 
    geezmeister
(Of Counsel)
11-21-03 06:25
No 472253
      two kinds of red     

There are two kinds of red coatings. One is basically a dye that an a/b will leave behind, even post reaction. The other one is more like a glue and if you use water with it expect everything to resemble cured cement after a while.

I can't help you with the second, but an a/b solves the first. The first is typically the shiny red coatings.

mostly harmless
 
 
 
 
    yinga
(Hive Bee)
11-21-03 20:28
No 472404
      What Geez said     

Also see Post 465224 (yinga: "What worked for me", Stimulants)
 
 
 
 
    nosefirst
(Stranger)
11-21-03 21:36
No 472420
      Noze job...     

Noze doez the Tetra Trap on Red Hots w/432 onum. After retriving shards from freezer still a little pink so he tried a hot Xylene wash and sent back to freezer. Bitchen mann...some gakk and all the color stayed in the filter. Wierd huh!

A fantasy of course!
 
 
 
 
    halfkast
(Hive Addict)
11-22-03 05:53
No 472482
      > Noze doez the Tetra Trap on Red Hots...     

> Noze doez the Tetra Trap on Red Hots w/432 onum. After retriving shards from freezer.

You sure that is pfed fb?

You don't need 2 Bee High to follow the goings-on @The-Hive--Just Addikted!
 
 
 
 
    nosefirst
(Stranger)
11-22-03 11:49
No 472530
      Worked pretty good for curbshot nanos...been...     

Worked pretty good for curbshot nanos...been bouncing around like Tiger.

A fantasy of course!
 
 
 
 
    halfkast
(Hive Addict)
11-23-03 02:25
No 472643
      It's probably contaminated, it's supposed to...     

It's probably contaminated, it's supposed to bee rhombic tablets

Get it right, his name is Tigger. laughtongue

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    nosefirst
(Stranger)
11-23-03 07:01
No 472651
      Probably contaminated?????     

Yes, I know it is. Soon I'll be concerned about that. For now, I'm happy with what I got. Rhombic tablets? You tell me. Noze gottem at Fat ALBERT'Son store. Says suda***rine HCL 30mg 96 per. Carnuba wax, dicalcium phosphate, red dye #40, hydroxypropyl methylcelluose, magnesium         stearate,microcrystaline cellulose, polyethylene glycol, polysorbate 80, silicondioxide, titanium dioxide.
 Is that what you call rhombic tablets?

A fantasy of course!
 
 
 
 
    halfkast
(Hive Addict)
11-23-03 08:14
No 472655
      nope. little squares or rectangles with ...     

nope.

little squares or rectangles with straight flat sides.
But swihk has seen shards (flat sides) but he isn't sure if they are illongated because they are impure or beecause he did a very slow crystalisation.

He used water (very small), MEK, and toluene.
The MEK slows the evaporation rate massively. I'm talking 24h for 50-100ml in an ash-tray sized dish with good air-flow.
very purrty silver/clear/white ellongated shards. smile

anyway best of luck to swim!

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    nosefirst
(Stranger)
11-23-03 08:42
No 472662
      oh...oh...     

Those rhombic tablets....No these came out as long shards. After the Xlene rxtal they were the same only almost clear. They are so beautiful, pristine. Or so it looks.

A fantasy of course!