"bad" rp? , Hive Stimulants

Placebo2004 (Stranger)
01-13-04 07:36
No 482186

"bad" rp?

hey folks

could it bee that SWIM dreamed of some excellent RP which has gone "bad" after a couple of months as a result from too high temperature at storage-place, or from just air by sometimes opening the case, or from touching it with a metal-spoon, or whatever?! it REALLY seems so!!! crazy

how are the best conditions to store it?

embezzler
(Stranger)
01-13-04 09:40
No 482204

rp storage

some storage instructions::: rp sounds kinda sensitive

http://www.italmatch.it/Red%20Phosporus_EN.htm

get this oxygen off my ephedrine!!!

geezmeister
(Of Counsel)
01-13-04 09:54
No 482208

going south?

I've never had a problem with lgrP degrading while being stored, but I've never stored any in an attic, either. It seems to me to be a very stable compound, and seems to take being left out to air dry in an open container in a hot room in the summer without a problem. I store what I have in plastic airtight containers. I have never found that it mattered whether it was stored dry, damp or wet, although I always rinse the red with hot water several times after using it and allow it to air dry before putting it in a tupperware container.

If it clumps and does not break apart easily I clean with alcohol followed by acetone rinses. If its dark after a reaction, I rinse with acetone until the rinse acetone is fairly clear. If the the red is really dirty, waxy, or tends to clump, I may boil it in HCl.

The only cautions I might give are to avoid extreme heat, store it in a sealed container, and store it well away from iodine.

If you have used the red in a reaction, your problem may be contamination from the last reaction rather than degradation of the red phosphorous. Try cleaning it well before concluding that it has degraded in storage.

mostly harmless

SHORTY
(Hive Addict)
01-13-04 11:57
No 482225

More details...

Although geez covered just about every possibility, i am curious about the storage conditions you are refering to. Like the approx. temp, type of container, etc.

It wasn't Me!

Dope_Boy
01-13-04 14:00

a question
(Rated as: UTFSE!)

placebo
01-15-04 09:39

Get your own fucking name!
(Rated as: off-topic)

morpheus
01-15-04 16:00

Ditto
(Rated as: off-topic)

Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
01-15-04 20:27
No 482740

Copycat names are against the Hive rules

The copycat has been banned. No further discussion on this topic necessary. Should a similar situation arise in the future, please contact an admin directly instead of going off topic in the forums.

^{The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders}


		Placebo2004 (Stranger) 01-13-04 07:36 No 482186				"bad" rp?
						hey folks could it bee that SWIM dreamed of some excellent RP which has gone "bad" after a couple of months as a result from too high temperature at storage-place, or from just air by sometimes opening the case, or from touching it with a metal-spoon, or whatever?! it REALLY seems so!!! how are the best conditions to store it?



		embezzler (Stranger) 01-13-04 09:40 No 482204				rp storage
						some storage instructions::: rp sounds kinda sensitive http://www.italmatch.it/Red%20Phosporus_EN.htm get this oxygen off my ephedrine!!!



		geezmeister (Of Counsel) 01-13-04 09:54 No 482208				going south?
						I've never had a problem with lgrP degrading while being stored, but I've never stored any in an attic, either. It seems to me to be a very stable compound, and seems to take being left out to air dry in an open container in a hot room in the summer without a problem. I store what I have in plastic airtight containers. I have never found that it mattered whether it was stored dry, damp or wet, although I always rinse the red with hot water several times after using it and allow it to air dry before putting it in a tupperware container. If it clumps and does not break apart easily I clean with alcohol followed by acetone rinses. If its dark after a reaction, I rinse with acetone until the rinse acetone is fairly clear. If the the red is really dirty, waxy, or tends to clump, I may boil it in HCl. The only cautions I might give are to avoid extreme heat, store it in a sealed container, and store it well away from iodine. If you have used the red in a reaction, your problem may be contamination from the last reaction rather than degradation of the red phosphorous. Try cleaning it well before concluding that it has degraded in storage. mostly harmless



		SHORTY (Hive Addict) 01-13-04 11:57 No 482225				More details...
						Although geez covered just about every possibility, i am curious about the storage conditions you are refering to. Like the approx. temp, type of container, etc. It wasn't Me!



		Dope_Boy 01-13-04 14:00				a question (Rated as: UTFSE!)



		placebo 01-15-04 09:39				Get your own fucking name! (Rated as: off-topic)



		morpheus 01-15-04 16:00				Ditto (Rated as: off-topic)



		Rhodium (Chief Bee) 01-15-04 20:27 No 482740				Copycat names are against the Hive rules
						The copycat has been banned. No further discussion on this topic necessary. Should a similar situation arise in the future, please contact an admin directly instead of going off topic in the forums. ^{The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders}