<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=485381&page=43&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">bizarre urban myth maybeeee?????</a> (Rated as: UTFSE!) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485388"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> ChemoSabe (Hive Addict) 01-30-04 00:33 No 485388 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> Palladium Metal </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> According to our own (currently MIA) god of electro wayupnorth (who gave it up in favor of birch) portions of certain types of telephone line transformers contain some quite usable sized amounts of palladium metal. I trust wayupnorth but have never heard this confirmed by anyone else. I suspect some connection between these two similar but as yet unconfirmed "rumors". Here is one related reference but there is a better one somewhere <a href="../DUMMY">Post 58014</a> (wayupnorth: "Re: catalytic converter cleanup", Stimulants) This is it. In one of his tweakier posts. The info is about 3/4 of the way down the non paragraphed, stream of conciousness-style chunk of verbiage. Key words - terminal strips. <a href="../DUMMY">Post 48080</a> (wayupnorth: "Re: Dental Grade Palladium Ingots for Elecro Synthsis", Stimulants) PS. My knowledge of chemistry as it applies to electronics is less than zero but I would bee fascinated to know how P2P might actually be useful in the realm of electronic gadgetry. <hr>some nations went so far as to honor his poop as a valid form of currency </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485391"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> Rhodium (Chief Bee) 01-30-04 00:49 No 485391 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> Transformer Oil = PCB =/= P2P </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> you heard it right P2P NOT PCB! But YOU didn't hear it right, as it's still only PCB in those transformers no matter how much you want it to be P2P. <a href="../DUMMY">Post 318065</a> (PolytheneSam: "Either you or someone else is trying to kill ...", Stimulants) <a href="../DUMMY">Post 295487</a> (Rhodium: "PCB vs. 2C-B", The Couch) <a href="../DUMMY">Post 182720</a> (Osmium: "Re: RP from motorcycle batteries", Chemicals & Equipment) <hr>The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485392"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="1"> randolph_carter 01-30-04 00:58 </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=485392&page=43&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">as i thought......</a> (Rated as: insignificant) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485393"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> spectralshift (Hive Bee) 01-30-04 01:03 No 485393 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> It's bewildering to me how someone who is so... </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> It's bewildering to me how someone who is so desparate to get a chemical OTC is going to be able to do anything with it. transformers are seriously pricey anyway, they are full of copper wire and layers of common metal, nice quality plastic in small amounts, and other worthless junk for chemistry. There's easier sources for palladium. At the local car wreckers, precious metal and bullion dealers, and certain artist supplies places... actually my bad, that's Pt... </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485717"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> methymouse (Newbee) 01-31-04 20:24 No 485717 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> From ../rhodium/chickenfee... </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> From <a href="../rhodium /chickenfeed.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">../rhodium /chickenfeed.html</a> "Interestingly, P-2-P was used in a commercial glass and plastic cleaner called Opti-Kleen (Industrial Optical Service, Pembroke, Massachusetts). Its use in the product pre-dated the scheduling of P-2-P as a controlled substance under Federal law. The Drug Enforcement Administration granted Industrial Optical Service an exemption (the only exemption to date) under the provisions of 21 CFR 130823, allowing them to continue using P-2-P in Opti-Kleen. The concentration of P-2-P in the cleaning product was less than 2% and represented a use of 40kg of P-2-P during the year 1981. However, because of the stringent Federal registration, record keeping and accountability, the company stopped using P-2-P in its formulation of Opti-Kleen in 1982 (Dal Cason T, Sottolano S, Murphy J, personal communications)." Furthermore, why would power companies use a liquid in power transformers? What possible use could P2P have in power transformers? Why is it not totally fucking obvious that this is BS? <hr>I've got the kind of toys you've never seen Manmade and a bit obscene </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>

bizarre urban myth maybeeee????? , Hive Stimulants


		randolph_carter 01-30-04 00:18				<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=485381&page=43&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">bizarre urban myth maybeeee?????</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: UTFSE!)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485388"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> ChemoSabe<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Addict</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-30-04 00:33</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [485388]">No 485388</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Palladium Metal</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> According to our own (currently MIA) god of electro wayupnorth (who gave it up in favor of birch) portions of certain types of telephone line transformers contain some quite usable sized amounts of palladium metal. <br><br>I trust wayupnorth but have never heard this confirmed by anyone else.<br><br>I suspect some connection between these two similar but as yet unconfirmed "rumors".<br><br>Here is one related reference but there is a better one somewhere <span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 58014</a> <i>(wayupnorth: "Re: catalytic converter cleanup", Stimulants)</i></span><br><br>This is it. In one of his tweakier posts. The info is about 3/4 of the way down the non paragraphed, stream of conciousness-style chunk of verbiage. Key words - terminal strips. <span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 48080</a> <i>(wayupnorth: "Re: Dental Grade Palladium Ingots for Elecro Synthsis", Stimulants)</i></span><br><br>PS. My knowledge of chemistry as it applies to electronics is less than zero but I would bee fascinated to know how P2P might actually be useful in the realm of electronic gadgetry. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>some nations went so far as to honor his poop as a valid form of currency</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485391"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#FF0033">Rhodium</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Chief Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-30-04 00:49</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [485391]">No 485391</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Transformer Oil = PCB =/= P2P</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> <font color="blue">you heard it right P2P NOT PCB!</font color="blue"><br><br>But YOU didn't hear it right, as it's <i>still</i> only PCB in those transformers no matter how much you want it to be P2P.<br><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 318065</a> <i>(PolytheneSam: "Either you or someone else is trying to kill ...", Stimulants)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 295487</a> <i>(Rhodium: "PCB vs. 2C-B", The Couch)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 182720</a> <i>(Osmium: "Re: RP from motorcycle batteries", Chemicals & Equipment)</i></span> <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><sup>The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders</sup></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485392"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="1"> randolph_carter<br> <span title="Posting date">01-30-04 00:58</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=485392&page=43&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">as i thought......</a> </b><br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: insignificant)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485393"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> spectralshift<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-30-04 01:03</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [485393]">No 485393</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">It's bewildering to me how someone who is so...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> It's bewildering to me how someone who is so desparate to get a chemical OTC is going to be able to do anything with it.<br><br>transformers are seriously pricey anyway, they are full of copper wire and layers of common metal, nice quality plastic in small amounts, and other worthless junk for chemistry.<br><br>There's easier sources for palladium.<br>At the local car wreckers, precious metal and bullion dealers, and certain artist supplies places...<br>actually my bad, that's Pt... </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post485717"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> methymouse<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Newbee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-31-04 20:24</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [485717]">No 485717</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">From ../rhodium/chickenfee...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> From <a href="../rhodium /chickenfeed.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">../rhodium /chicken<wbr>feed.htm<wbr>l</a><br><br>"Interestingly, P-2-P was used in a commercial glass and plastic cleaner called Opti-Kleen (Industrial Optical Service, Pembroke, Massachusetts). Its use in the product pre-dated the scheduling of P-2-P as a controlled substance under Federal law. The Drug Enforcement Administration granted Industrial Optical Service an exemption (the only exemption to date) under the provisions of 21 CFR 130823, allowing them to continue using P-2-P in Opti-Kleen. The concentration of P-2-P in the cleaning product was less than 2% and represented a use of 40kg of P-2-P during the year 1981. However, because of the stringent Federal registration, record keeping and accountability, the company stopped using P-2-P in its formulation of Opti-Kleen in 1982 (Dal Cason T, Sottolano S, Murphy J, personal communications)."<br><br>Furthermore, why would power companies use a liquid in power transformers? What possible use could P2P have in power transformers? Why is it not totally fucking obvious that this is BS? <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>I've got the kind of toys you've never seen<br>Manmade and a bit obscene</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>