auntyjack (Hive Bee)
03-14-04 08:56
No 495057
      questions for wareami     

hey wareami(your directly above the centre of the earth)these polymers break down over time...do you have any understanding of what these polymers break down into?...and by breaking down does it mean that they lose their effectivness as bastard face, cunty bolloxing agents?...swij finds the idea of leaving pills lying around for months on end to be quite appealing...what a fabulous extraction method: put pills in cupboard for eight months and then extract using your favourite "falling off a log" technique....yeah yeah...couldn't be that simple...

accidentally disclosed embarrasing felatio story on the couch
 
 
 
 
    wareami
(Hive Addict)
03-14-04 10:32
No 495084
      The Truth....Ya'll ready???     

For some reason...I don't think we're all ready for the truth...laugh
But we need to deal with it none-the-less!
The latest assaults they are pounding bees with is the use of solvent activated co-polymer coatings.
What does that mean?
That means they are introducing these co-polymers to the same exactcommon solvents used in extraction that make them resistant and/or make them activate upon contact with those solvents!
They even targeted pH based extractions that make these co-polymers resistant to those environments.
It's not pretty, this we do know!
Just like with Orange I and II gaaks the only hope in excluding those gaaks is through deactivation first....then removal!
Yes these polymers will decompose and lose effectiveness over time.
Ibee is researching some faster ways however by exploiting their weak points.
What makes this such a tedious job is different components behave differently under certain conditions.
The key is in breaking them down into there original categories, then unassembling each component to break their effectiveness for which they were included.
Heat is also a target of this adulterant camp-pain with some of these inactive denaturants. They become stronger and/or activate under heated conditions! This causes them to latch onto the goodz and since they've included solvent resistant protection, it's hard to unlatch the goodz without bringing the shit along with.
If these inactives stay persistant throughout frontside extraction, they'll then perform the job they are most effective at doing. Fucking up the rxn and tainting the final product!
It's hard to believe that they thought of everything this time and if they left that window of opportunity open the slightest bit in any area, you can bee sure that a bee will fly through that fucker and disassemble this dis-funk-shun-awe machine!
Ibee has his kamikazee bees out hunting down the weak spots as we speak!
READ the Eudragit thread...AWE of it! Absorb it! Eat it for brakefast! The answers are there!
And just because you find a way to defeat the Eudragit when you do...don't think that what was employed to defeat orangeII gaak doesn't still need to be incorporated in the process! Orange Gaak is still in the picture.
These new co-polymers might be protectors of that which they already found effective at thwarting extraction of the feedstock a year ago!

Dwarfer: Ain't it about time for a Grand Opening here?
Crank UP that new amusement park ride!
"The CentrifuGate to Hell"wink
Going UP???smile

The word coating is very misleading so don't let it fool you into believing these enteric coatings are just an outer layer coating.
They are coating every part of the individual components that will compatibly recieve the coating then they are pressing the pills that are permeated with the crap!
This is why it's imperative to expose every possible surface area with whatever treatment application you find that works at disabling this stuff!

Not to sound pesimistic or negative here but
And on all that just disclosed from Ibee's viewpoint....we have only begun to scratch the surface here!
It does gets worse I promise ya!
But we'll still act like that knockout punch to the button didn't phase us....
If ya ain't gotta a hardhead ya ain't got no bizness in `da ring!
Ibee's covered in `da ring wareing his tinfoil hat
"Never leave dome without it!"

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