place (Hive Bee)
06-02-04 01:44
No 510879
      Doing freebase meth?     

SWIM did his first gasing a couple days ago. The NP turned beautifull white and SWIM filtered out goodies. The (coffee)filters was pretty wet from the NP and was place in the sun so the NP could evap.

When the NP which made my filters wet evaporator, doesn't the NP leave a tiny bit of freebase meth together with the meth.HCl?

Is freebase meth dangerous for your body and mind?
 
 
 
 
    Chewbacca
(Hive Bee)
06-02-04 04:04
No 510912
      1.     

1. It is unlikely that there is even the tiniest trace of meth FB on your filter paper

2. Meth.HCl is actually more damaging to your body, the HCl salt damages the lungs or mucous membranes, FB meth is fine.

The shit we go through to get high...
 
 
 
 
    place
(Hive Bee)
06-02-04 05:03
No 510926
      Have any one tried FB meth?     

Have any one tried FB meth? There must be a reason that people only do (and smoke) the HCl salt.
 
 
 
 
    Unobtainium
(Minister of Propaganda)
06-02-04 05:44
No 510936
      the reason     

is because the salt is easier to store, transport, and used.

a very special 'fuck you' as well.
 
 
 
 
    SHORTY
(Hive Addict)
06-02-04 08:13
No 510957
      And it doesn't taste so good either     

Freebase Meth is an oil which is what makes it more trouble to work with as mentioned above.

Even so, i find it to be pretty nasty when smoked in the fb form but thats just my opinion.

It wasn't Me!
 
 
 
 
    barkingburro
(Hive Bee)
06-02-04 12:36
No 511009
      i have to agree with scotty     

though the high is a bit different. on that note swibb has been experimenting lately with additions to his bong water. one addition has been alcohol. nice little buzz that goes along with the amp. the second has been adding baking soda to the water. it is a quite different buzz... it tastes, cleaner?
 anyway, just more crap to add to the pile
 
 
 
 
    mr_pyrex
(Head Coach)
06-02-04 23:05
No 511161
      opps     

It can be taken orally if your a daring individual...but be forewarned it has a nasty bite to it. ;-)  It was purely by accident that I happened to taste it and I won't be making that same mistake again, if I can help it.  It is kinda like accidentally tasting sodium hydroxide.  Good Luck and if'n your gonna try it...make sure it is a very small amount as freebase is a bit more concentrated then the HCl form.  Pyrex out taste testing other chems ;-)

Yeah and if ya don't PAID me well, I won't INFORMANT you of the answers you are seeking ;-)
 
 
 
 
    Newton
(Hive Bee)
06-03-04 01:08
No 511174
      Meth.HCl is actually more damaging to your...     

Meth.HCl is actually more damaging to your body, the HCl salt damages the lungs or mucous membranes, FB meth is fine.


Have you actually tried smoking the freebase? From SWIM's experience, the freebase is almost painful to smoke, while the HCl salt is smooth and almost tasteless.
From my hypothesis, the freebase is more damaging to mucous membranes, as it is quite caustic in aqueous solution (ph 9.5), while the HCl salt is almost neutral (ph 6).
 
 
 
 
    Chewbacca
(Hive Bee)
06-03-04 04:26
No 511199
      Good point     

although i havent experienced FB meth, SWIC was once sold FBpfed which was unpleasant to smoke to say the least. the sensation aside, i have read that the HCl liberated when smoking (or coming in contact with the moist lungs, rather) is harmful to the lungs.

a viable point about the mucous membranes, i was unaware that the pH was quite so high. good luck snorting liquid though!

The shit we go through to get high...
 
 
 
 
    Red_Crown
(Hive Bee)
06-03-04 23:18
No 511362
      Liberation     

I don't think the HCl is liberated per se, otherwise there would be no difference between the MethHCl and the MethFB as far as your tissues were concerned. But there is a HUGE difference: the freebase vapor is quite painful.  Quoth Osmium who once said "Freebase amines with a large organic residue aren't very gentle on your mucous membranes." (Post 356949 (Osmium: "> Freebase is better on your lungs than the ...", Stimulants))

Of the salt, no matter the phase, I would think the Meth remains protonated, and the Cl- remains associated.  Or then again, if not, think of it this way: Snorting a line of MethHCl doesn't obliterate your sinus tissues, and smoking is significantly slower and more diffuse..

But, really, the Cl- remains associated.

So much time for so little chaos..
 
 
 
 
    Xaja
(Newbee)
06-04-04 02:24
No 511396
      FB is strong because     

Tiny bit of FB oil makes large amount of HCl salt. So if you have FB remember that you only need little bit... cool

***FriedPiper***