08-09-00 01:01
No 38545
anyone with a good referance or scan of a synth for mda without the use of exotic reducing agents or difficult to obtain chemicals? a semisythetic route from i-safrole or 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone would be great...
(Moderator)
08-09-00 02:17
No 38554
Huh?
Look at the thread at the top of this forum. Or search for the Leuckart reaction which uses formamide (from ammonium formate).
(Stranger)
08-09-00 23:35
No 38866
An easy way to make MDA from MDP2P is to first make the oxime by reacting the ketone with hydroxylamine-HCl. This can be done in good yields (>90%). See CA -55, 10595 for details.
The formed oxime is reduced by adding a 10 molar excess of sodium pieces to the oxime in anhydrous EtOH. See J. Chem. Soc. Perkin. Trans 2, -97, pp249-56 for a good procedure. This gave 3.2g MDA from about 4g oxime using 6g sodium and 50ml EtOH. If you're interested I can do a write-up on this...
(Hive Bee)
08-10-00 00:30
No 38886
You betcha Outcast. We all love new write-ups 'round here. Try to keep in mind a lot of us are just kitchen chemist's. Lookin forward to it
(Hive Bee)
08-10-00 06:44
No 38960
LD 50 - check uot the leukart like Osmium says, antibody did alot investigating in that area a while back and is very OTC as well as simple rxn to do. More variations that you can shake a stick at. Antibody is currently tryying to find some of the MW refs which yield MDA or rather the formyl intermediate in MINUTES!
Outcast is that elemental sodium you refer too? Antibody would love to see a write up on that route. Remember reading some proceedures put forth by Rhodium a while back, they sounded abit more involved than what you are proposing.
Jimi loves ya!
(Newbee)
08-11-00 12:14
No 39475
yes I did a search of both boards..but could not find any posts that had the rxn. I will check the chemical abstracts this weekend. If somebody has a scan/writeup please post :)
thanks a bunch everyone
(Hive Bee)
08-11-00 12:56
No 39482
What will you search CA For
mda with out sodium cyanoborohydride
lol
(Newbee)
08-11-00 13:01
No 39484
ok..very funny...
(Newbee)
08-11-00 13:10
No 39486
Foxy2: Tell me how you like this CA search string
"getto AND otc AND mda AND cheap AND easy AND reactor AND no sodium cyanaborohydride"-lol
found it!!! JOC, april '88,p4555,
"the getto reaction for producing mda via OTC chemicals"
by: Sloth T. Helvetrochner phd
(Newbee)
08-15-00 05:58
No 41157
Whats happend to outcast ?
Thew writup would have been usefull.
I just couldn,t resist asking !
(Stranger)
08-15-00 23:42
No 41469
Heh, this is outcast with my original alias (sonson). I had some problems with my account. And the writeup...almost done...just have to make my dreams more colourful...add more details. Hang on...
(Newbee / Eraser)
09-02-00 04:41
No 48106
Still hangin !
I just couldn,t resist asking !
(Hive Bee)
09-03-00 11:02
No 48472
were hangin as well outcast, this sounds pretty intresting!
frost
(Hive Bee)
11-28-01 07:17
No 241619
This document on Rhodium's site ../rhodium /mda.dal
(Chief Bee)
11-28-01 07:28
No 241624
The amalgam route using ammonia (or ammonium salts) is very low-yielding (20-30%), I don't know about the catalytic hydrogenation with Ni though.
(Hive Addict)
11-28-01 11:16
No 241692
Raney requires high pressure (supposedly). There's a link on your (Rhod) page which is a compendium of journal articles. One is from a Russian Law Enforcement journal detailing how a lab there made MDA using high-pressure CTH.
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"And if we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto, then we'll just be bogus too!"
(Hive Bee)
12-09-01 19:15
No 245992
TETRANITROMETHANE!!!!! BOOOOOM!!!
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