experimentalbois (Hive Bee)
02-19-03 16:08
No 409914
      60% Nitromethane  Bookmark   

SWIM acquired a 60% Nitromethane solution(all the label says is that the solution is made up of Nitromethane and Methyl Alcohol....there are no other ingredients listed)...SWIM's been all over TFSE and found numerous posts about distilling various fuels to get Nitromethane, washing fuels w/ water and then DCM....but w/ a 60% solution that only has methyl alcohol/nitro(or so it says), is all this necessary or can SWIM just use 33.3g of the solution(to get the 20g of Nitromethane) in MM's animation?
 
 
 
 
    hCiLdOdUeDn
(Hive Addict)
02-19-03 16:13
No 409917
      If its clear, I would go with it.  Bookmark   

If its clear, I would go with it. If it has ANY color to it. Distill that shit. It only takes an hour to distill a liter or so. It takes all day to do an amination and clean up a failed aminationblush

Chemistry is hard to learn, but its worth it.
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-19-03 16:27
No 409922
      reddish color  Bookmark   

hey hCiLdOdUeDn

the nitro has a reddish tint, so SWIM's gonna distill it...a post SWIM came across said that nitro has a BP of 100.5C(ATM), so when the temp hits the 100C range, SWIM just gonna change the receiving flask, collect the nitro and then animate the night away  smile
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-19-03 16:56
No 409935
      Came across this post, so SWIM just wanted to...  Bookmark   

Came across this post, so SWIM just wanted to share it with everyone(it was kinda buried)...

Post 193397 (Rhodium: "Re: Nitromethane distillation probs", Newbee Forum)
 
 
 
 
    hCiLdOdUeDn
(Hive Addict)
02-19-03 17:48
No 409955
      Yes, perfectly safe to distill nitromethane.  Bookmark   

Yes, perfectly safe to distill nitromethane. Just use common sense and dont have any flames near your distillation apparatus. I would keep the methanol fraction that comes over also. The azeotrope contains 8% nitromethane and 92% methanol.

Chemistry is hard to learn, but its worth it.
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-19-03 22:33
No 410026
      Taking A Long Time  Bookmark   

SWIM's distilling 250ml of the nitro/methanol mix(60%/40%) and it's been running for about 4 hours now....40% of the solution came over(the azeotrope) but the temp won't go up to the 100C-102C range(temp is holding steady at 60C now) and the hotplate is up to almost 6(the setting right before High)...and SWIM wants to aminate  frown
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-20-03 03:47
No 410101
      ok...SWIM's an official newbee....and was...  Bookmark   

ok...SWIM's an official newbee....and was using a water bath as opposed to the much necessary oil bath...upon changing to the oil bath, the nitro poured over at 101C and SWIM is currently in the middle of MM's amalgamation/amination and will be performing the NaOH wash of the gray sludge in a few hours....wish SWIM luck!!!  smile
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-20-03 12:03
No 410191
      well, SWIM did MM's amination and everything...  Bookmark   

well, SWIM did MM's amination and everything looks good but when SWIM dried the milky, white solution w/ oven-dried MgSO4, it looks that the MgSO4 was completely dissolved...SWIM gravity filtered it off and there was a little MgSO4 residue in the filter but not 30g worth...is this ok/normal??
 
 
 
 
    hCiLdOdUeDn
(Hive Addict)
02-20-03 14:20
No 410229
      water bath  Bookmark   

water bath is excellent for temperatures under 100C. Great to know you found out the hardwaretongue

Chemistry is hard to learn, but its worth it.
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-20-03 19:55
No 410319
      Finally.....A Land Of Milk And HONEY  Bookmark   

Well, SWIM's finally done it....after gassing, SWIM got quite a nice pile of beautiful, white MDMA(hasn't weighed it yet) and then SWIM gassed the Zylene again and got more powder(but this powder was gold in color and a smaller amount than the first pile)....up until 5 minutes ago, both piles smelled badly of Zylene but now the gold pile smells gorgeous  smile   but the big, white pile still smells of Zylene.....SWIM's guessing that they're both good but was wondering why the second, smaller pile of powder was gold in color....should SWIM wash it or both piles w/ acetone??

SWIM wants to thank everyone here for all the advice and support....a special thanks to Rhodium and hCiLdOdUeDn
 
 
 
 
    experimentalbois
(Hive Bee)
02-21-03 12:34
No 410519
      SWIM washed the gold/brown powder w/ acetone...  Bookmark   

SWIM washed the gold/brown powder w/ acetone and what a beautiful white pile of MDMA....so when combining the two piles of powder, SWIM got a total of 18g for his first yeild...life is so good!!!  smile
 
 
 
 
    tranceport
(Hive Bee)
02-21-03 23:48
No 410687
      From what I understand...  Bookmark   

Doesnt Rhodium reccomend against using acetone to clean up discoloration? Just a thought if you plan to keep making your own honey. Otherwise, congrats and thanks for joining the war...wink
 
 
 
 
    hCiLdOdUeDn
(Hive Addict)
02-22-03 09:39
No 410788
      I think its not wise to gas in acetone, but...  Bookmark   

I think its not wise to gas in acetone, but from my experience it wont harm MDMA if you use acetone to clean it up. Just make sure your acetone is nice and dry.

Chemistry is hard to learn, but its worth it.