synthesys (Stranger)
05-15-03 09:24
No 433361
      molecular structure of xxx.salt  Bookmark   

At which point does the HCL, SO4, CO3, etc... attach to the MDA, MDMA molecule?
     H             H
    /             /
R-N       ? R-N        ?
    \             \  /H
     H             C-H
                     \H

How do the HCL, SO4, etc... attach?

Why will this not happen to imines?

    /CH3
R-N
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
05-15-03 13:40
No 433400
      Ionic bonding - loose association  Bookmark   

In MDMA.HCl only the H+ from the HCl attaches to the MDMA molecule, bonding to the nitrogen and making the latter positively charged. The negatively charged Cl- which is then "left over" does not covalently bond to anything, it just hangs around nearby (in a solution) to even out the electric charges.

In the MDMA.HCl crystals, the positive and negative ions end up in a lattice, where every other ion is positive or negative, repectively, much like as in a sodium chloride crystal (http://www.avogadro.co.uk/definitions/ionic.htm) which consists of Na+ and Cl- ions instead.