zorg1u8 (Stranger)
08-07-03 08:16
No 452305
      Best way to start  Bookmark   

Hi,
I want to know what will be the best way to start in the beautiful and complex world of drug chemistry. I really want to understand how drug work and how synthesis work.

thanks

I want the world and I want it .... Now            - Jim Morrisson-
 
 
 
 
    jrfoxxx1
(Hive Bee)
08-07-03 08:52
No 452308
      get some books  Bookmark   

get some general chem textbooks, and use chem links in the faq, and just study, study, study, and read up on the proceedures for the simpler synths in the forums and understand not just how to make something, but why it is done the way it is. try do understand what your doing, dont just follow a recipe.

"There is a pleasure in being mad which none but madmen know"
 
 
 
 
    zorg1u8
(Stranger)
08-07-03 10:00
No 452318
      Do you have an idea of wich synthesis will be...  Bookmark   

Do you have an idea of wich synthesis will be the simplest to start?

thanks
 
 
 
 
    Xicori
(Hive Bee)
08-07-03 10:16
No 452321
      if you can get your hands on gamma ...  Bookmark   

if you can get your hands on gamma Butyrolactone that would be a good synth to start with!

you can try to extract ephedrine from pills, or alkaloids from plant material, etc etc...

all you need is to reed a lot and gain experience
 
 
 
 
    zorg1u8
08-07-03 11:07
      that's a good idea i never think to extract...
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    Xicori
(Hive Bee)
08-07-03 13:19
No 452340
      the main thing in becoming a chemist is to...  Bookmark   

the main thing in becoming a chemist is to look things up for yourselfe! -> so UTFSE!!
 
 
 
 
    akdov
(Stranger)
08-07-03 14:09
No 452345
      if you are interested...  Bookmark   

if you are interested in how drugs work you could try reading the book 'pills, potions, poisons; how drugs work'. quite a good read.

brewed and canned in the UK
 
 
 
 
    technology
(Hive Bee)
08-07-03 23:01
No 452423
      where to start?  Bookmark   

As the others have metioned,

For starters get chem books on the basics, it is important that you have a good understanding of the different rxn's and so on.

Also, once you have a good understanding of rxn's and how to setup equipment, you then can begin to search for synths that you perhaps have interest in."tongueThe best place to start is the HIVE" for illicit that is" There are thousands of practical organic chem books out there with thousands of practicals.

As by having a good understanding of how things work and setup,it will help you with concept of the synth.

check these sites out:

http://www.chemhelper.com

http://www.chem.cuhk.edu.hk/labtech/index.asp these are great compliments of Rhodiums multimedia sect"

this took a couple of minutes there are shits loads of info on the web.'

just search all the best...tongue
 
 
 
 
    zorg1u8
(Stranger)
08-09-03 08:46
No 452625
      LSA Extraction  Bookmark   

I think I will start with LSA Exraction but I have somes questions. First, I read The Recrystallization and A/B general info from MadMAX and they said that most alkaloid are soluble in non-polar solvent but I also read a lot of thing on LSA Extraction and they said that LSA are soluble in polar solvent so I want to know why LSA are'nt soluble in non-polar solvent like many other drug and what are the other alkaloid that are soluble in polar solvent. And last question, if LSA is soluble in polar solvent does it mean that I have to invert the A/B process?

thanks

We want the world and we want it .... now
-Jim Morrisson-
 
 
 
 
    zorg1u8
08-09-03 09:06
      Okay sorry I understand my mistake I have to...
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    wolfx
(Hive Bee)
08-09-03 14:38
No 452662
      Rhodium site  Bookmark   

Case you don't know this one yet, take a look at the Rhodium site :

../rhodium/chemistry

I suggest you study everything well, then post, ask questions and plan carefully before trying anything.
 
 
 
 
    technology
(Hive Bee)
08-10-03 20:18
No 452895
      I also suggest..!  Bookmark   

I also suggest.." the same.

Make sure you search real hard as i have learned. people do not like basic Questions, as i know you consider them otherwise, you must refrain from the hive: untill you are certain that there is nothing elsewhere.

BEFORE POSTING.

all the best
 
 
 
 
    abolt
(Hive Addict)
08-10-03 20:25
No 452898
      My best advice  Bookmark   

Avoid everything with the word "Ghetto" in it.

Democracy is the name we give the people, whenever we need them.
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    ScuzZ
(Hive Addict)
08-11-03 05:21
No 452973
      Beginners  Bookmark   

Swim would recommend to any beginner that the easiest or more so simplest to begin with would be LSA extraction..

There's no hard to get or very difficult to obtain utensils.. It's pretty easy to find Hawiian baby seeds or Morning Glory seeds..
 
 
 
 
    Chewbacca
(Newbee)
08-11-03 05:38
No 452976
      avoid  Bookmark   

"Avoid everything with the word "Ghetto" in it."

thats good advice, but thats not saying that you cant use "ghetto" stype equipment for well documented non-ghetto-procedures! smile

A friend with weed is a friend indeed, a friend with speed is better