k0dog
(Hive Bee) 08-08-03 04:11 No 452383 |
Dry thermal Rearrangment? | Bookmark | ||||||
Is it possible to do a thermal rearrangment without have your substance in a solvant? Picture this.... an air tight beaker (sealed of course)without any air in it. Placed in a solution of Ultrascene that is at 180'C... (BTW this is for a ketamine synthesis) Any ideas if this will work... I would of course leave it to "reflux" (not sure if it is considered that really but...) for way longer than 3.5 h as mentioned (or was it 2.5 doesn't matter... ) all I'm saying is.. will it work? "Vanity is defintely my favourite sin" -Devil's advocate |
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Aurelius (Active Asperger Archivist) 08-08-03 06:26 No 452399 |
Depends | Bookmark | ||||||
what is your substance that you're trying to rearrange? If the heating is below its melting point, probably not much chance at success. And why don't you want to use a solvent? Act quickly or not at all. |
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k0dog (Hive Bee) 08-09-03 09:06 No 452578 |
nope.. the melting point is actually .. | Bookmark | ||||||
nope.. the melting point is actually .. one sec.. let me check the COA... between 61.0-62.1'c.. oh ya.. I'll place the link up that I used to source most of my info... in regards to the rearrangement at least... ../rhodium /ketamin but this is not the exact document.. it also had pictures.. but now I can't find it on the site.. all exact writting tho.. oh well.. any luck maybe? thanks a bunch inadvanced "Vanity is defintely my favourite sin" -Devil's advocate |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 08-12-03 23:25 No 453175 |
Ketamine synthesis (with pictures) | Bookmark | ||||||
Are you looking for ../rhodium /pcp/ket Is it that much harder to use the search engine at my page than it is to rant several lines here about you being unable to find it?? |
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k0dog (Hive Bee) 08-13-03 21:13 No 453384 |
Sorry.. your right... | Bookmark | ||||||
no... but I have that page d/l to my hushmail account, It's just that I could not find it through the links... sorry... you are right but the alternative that I did use have the exact same quantitive/qualitative info on it that is relavant to this dream.... Maybe someone else can answer this... maybe I should msg Zealot? he would probably know best eh? any Ideas? I also can't find the bp of this product but then again I don't have a mercks handy... at least a new edition... only the 46th.. oh well... If you have any ideas if this might work/ not work pleas don't hessitate to pm or post.. thanks... "Vanity is defintely my favourite sin" -Devil's advocate |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 08-14-03 02:21 No 453433 |
Information on Ketamine Precursor Imine (Rated as: good read) |
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This is all the available information about the compound from Beilstein Crossfire: Names: 1-Hydroxy-cyclopentyl-o-chlorophenyl-ket 1-[(2-chloro-phenyl)-methylimino-methyl] Melting point: 62°C References: Patent US3254124 {Chem. Abs. 65, 5414h (1966)} Patent BE634208 {Chem. Abs. 61, 5569c (1964)} Patent CH454128 |
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k0dog (Hive Bee) 08-14-03 19:45 No 453548 |
thanks.. Rhodium.. your my god.... | Bookmark | ||||||
Thank Rhodi.. As I type.. or rather by the time you will have read this I will have read thie relavant patent info.. I'm truely sorry that I did not actually find this my self...Oh well.. I'm going to read this patent info... and then if it doesn't talk about any side effects or why they didn't try a dry thermal rearrangement or anything like that.. I think That I will try it once in a dream... Then I'll let you know the outcome... ok? Once again thank you for all your help.. swim is getting very excited to see the outcome... =) Thanks again... oh ya.. I have that other ketamine synthesis at my other computer.. I'm sure no one cares... but I'll post it when I get back home... thanks agian.. "Vanity is defintely my favourite sin" -Devil's advocate |
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