DjTime
(Newbee) 09-05-03 08:01 No 457281 |
Distilled of DCM, WTF ??? | Bookmark | ||||||
SWIM just got done distilling off the DCM from his Benzo Wacker. I have a few questions. The stuff that was left after the distillation, (I assume that's the ketone) was jet black, almost looks like used motor oil. It isn't hard or anything it flows like oil. Is that what was supposed to happen? It smells sweet and kinda musky at the same time. I think I lost alot of the DCM also, out of the 850 mL I got back 350 mL. I saved everything so far. So is the ketone supposed to be that color after you distill off the DCM and BEFORE I do the vac distillation? and what is supposed to smell like?? -peace |
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DjTime (Newbee) 09-05-03 21:15 No 457358 |
DAMN YEAH!!! | Bookmark | ||||||
WaHOOO!! SWIM has da tone. Or at least it looks alot like the stuff that MM describes in his writeup. It's pale greenish/ yellow. And came over at about 38-40C over my safrole. Got 3 drops of the safrole. Welp We'll see how it goes. -peace |
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pooky (Stranger) 09-06-03 02:59 No 457402 |
Hopefully | Bookmark | ||||||
you had good ventilation for those DCM fumes using simple distillation.Hope you didn't vac distill the DCM as it will be in your vac pump's oil.If you used an aspirator, the DCM is down the drain.Always been black for P. |
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DjTime (Hive Bee) 09-07-03 20:10 No 457610 |
Oh Yes he did. | Bookmark | ||||||
SWIM has great ventilation. Wouldn't do it unless he did. He's not too crazy bout smokin DCM fumes. But then again who is. I used a vacuum pump, but it's oiless. So I don't think there is any oil in there. I think alot of it is in the washes and stuff but it's all good. SWIM's about to do the Al/Hg amination. He thinks he has enough to do 3 runs so he's gonna try that. 84G of tone is all he got not the 100-120 MM was talkin about, But SWIM is still very proud of his little bottle of green tone. Later |
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NeoSynthesis (Stranger) 09-07-03 20:15 No 457612 |
DJ's tone.. Newbie to Newbie | Bookmark | ||||||
Hey DJ, congrats on your 1st synth! As one newbie to another, I've got a couple questions for you if you don't mind takin out the time: 1. Oiless Vac pump? how's that work? 2. You said you've got kick ass ventilation, curious about your setup. I almost fucking suffocated last night on oil/sassy fumes doing a sassy distillation @ ATM 3. How long did it take you to distill off the DCM? thanks & Good luck on the amination - Peace out |
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DjTime (Hive Bee) 09-08-03 03:50 No 457668 |
It's all good... | Bookmark | ||||||
1> Oiless Vac pump? how's that work? It's a piston type pump. Honestly it's a pretty shitty one. I wish I would have spent the extra dough and got one like you said you were getting 29" at least mine is 27" TOPS. I got my sassy oil to come over at 144C which isn't the best but it works. That means my ketone was going to come over close to the 200-220C range which turns it to plastic. So I had to be very vigilant about how it was going to distill. It was pretty unnerving. oil was kinda smokin, so I was sure I was done. but nope, just as soon as I had gotten the very last bit tone. Soon after It turned jet black and hard as a rock. PHEEWWWW! Im just trying to let you know to NEVER try to distill your tone with out a pump. Mine just barely scrapes by. 2> You said you've got kick ass ventilation, curious about your setup. I almost fucking suffocated last night on oil/sassy fumes doing a sassy distillation @ ATM. I have a cool little shed that the side door faces towards my house so not a single soul can see into it. I have two 25" Box fans stacked on each other facing out so it pulls all the air out of my small little shed through the doorway and out. Plus I have a small fan that pushes air out through an air vent and out. It works very effectivly. 3> How long did it take you to distill off the DCM? On the writeup it says like 3 hours it took me I think like 1 hour and 15 minutes. It was fairly quick. same with ketone distillation. It says 8 but to my suprise after only 2 and a half hours there was not a single drop of tone coming over after that. I got 84G of MDP2P. It was really cool to see it happen and look just like the writeup goes. If I can add a few more things NEO. I started this little adventure excatley 1 year and 3 days ago. It seems no matter how much you read there is always more to read. It's awesome this chemistry stuff, So many things involved. If you don't take your time and do it the right way and take NO short cuts until you have ALL the right skills to make those calls. Good luck NEO !!! I wish you the best-a-luck brother. |
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raffike (Hive Addict) 09-08-03 15:55 No 457720 |
If you get better vac pump,you get better... | Bookmark | ||||||
If you get better vac pump,you get better yields...raf uses a pump that pulls ketone over at 150 C and still gets some ketone scorched. For those about to synth,we salute you |
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mindlib (Hive Bee) 09-08-03 16:01 No 457722 |
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Thanks raffike, I like your thoughts!! Your thoughts are honey-worth. |
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DjTime (Hive Bee) 09-08-03 18:23 No 457731 |
better pump. | Bookmark | ||||||
SWIM had some doubts on wether or not he was going to be able to pull off this synth with no chemistry experierence at all. So SWIM got great chems, but and mostly great glass, but SWIM thought why pay 200 for a singles peice of equipment when he may never be able to get honey. So SWIM has seen the light and a better vac is already in the works. Thanks for the hindsight raf. -peace |
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