oldmeds (Stranger)
09-11-03 11:41
No 458381
      methylenation  Bookmark   

SWIW was looking for an oldbee's advice or page links that further explain this technique and amount of the chemical required :

3880. Ethylnorepinephrine (ENE, ENS, Bronkephrine). Methylenation gives X PPA!
../rhodium /yadontsay/

SWIM would be very grateful for the help i am sure

I am part of the gravitation of the planets in the fissures of my mind. Antonin Artaud-1896-1948
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
09-11-03 23:44
No 458471
      "X PPA"  Bookmark   

Noone will spoonfeed you with the info you request, as you need quite a lot of chemistry background to understand the answer.

1) First, the nitrogen atom is protected using any standard N-protection group which does not also add to the phenolic oxygens.
2) Then you methylenate the phenolic oxygens with any of the milder methods listed here: ../rhodium /methylenation.html#methylenation
3) Finally, the N-protection group is removed using standard methods.

There is no easier way than what I just listed above. Looking more closely at the molecule, the product would actually not be "X PPA" (presumably 3,4-Methylenedioxy-phenylpropanolamine), but rather 1-(3,4-Methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-amino-butan-1-ol...
 
 
 
 
    oldmeds
(Stranger)
09-12-03 00:02
No 458476
      ok so maybe  Bookmark   

it will help some of the hive think about this easier if the actual chem name was listed(i just now found the orginal paperwork listing it)... the paperwork on the inside of the box states it to be synthetic sympathomimetic amine as :

[racemic 1-(3,4-dihydroxyphenyl)-2-amino-1-butanol hydrochloride]

each cc contains 2mg. in a sterile isotonic solution of 0.5% NaCl with sodium acetone bisulfate 0.2% and chlorobutanol(chloral derivitave) 0.25% as preservatives with pH adjusted to 3.0-5.0 with NaOH.

amount available to SWIM in this theorhetical dream>>50 cc

I am part of the gravitation of the planets in the fissures of my mind. Antonin Artaud-1896-1948
 
 
 
 
    oldmeds
(Stranger)
09-12-03 00:09
No 458478
      thank you chief bee  Bookmark   

i had not seen your post when i posted the chem name just now...

also i totally understand that no one will spoonfeed anything and SWIM doesn't like being fed that way to start with eheheh...it's always so much more fun and rewarding to eat on your own of course... in this case SWIM just needed a little direction about what to eat smile

I am part of the gravitation of the planets in the fissures of my mind. Antonin Artaud-1896-1948
 
 
 
 
    acid_egg
(Hive Addict)
09-12-03 00:13
No 458479
      ...so your saying you've got a whole 100mg to...  Bookmark   

...so your saying you've got a whole 100mg to work with?
Don't sneeze when your dreaming this synth whatever you do!wink
 
 
 
 
    oldmeds
(Stranger)
09-12-03 00:23
No 458481
      thank you  Bookmark   

this is exactly the kind of post that SWIM was hoping for... basically the original point was not knowing the potency of 100 mg.. so not knowing that SWIM was clueless about the validity of the dreamsmile

I am part of the gravitation of the planets in the fissures of my mind. Antonin Artaud-1896-1948