11-09-03 10:18
No 469766
swim was wondering , whats a nice easy way to extract LSA from HBWR? if you got any links , that would be cool. swim just a noob chemist , just wanting to learn new things.
(Greenhorn)
11-09-03 14:40
No 469784
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=13393
I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:21
No 469833
is there anything i swim can get,that nicer then petroleum ether. that some nasty stuff.
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:27
No 469836
like Acetone?
(Hive Addict)
11-09-03 22:30
No 469837
it's about the most harmless substance we're using
here. (ok, apart from water and table salt.)
n'importe quoi
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:33
No 469839
Hmmmmm,you know I bet TFSE might hold that information.It can also bee found in the first link you were given and it can probably bee found quite quickly but I'm not gonna do it for ya and i doubt anyone else will either.Good luck you'll find it bro.
Peace,chambered
Bee's can't die,we multiply.....
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:38
No 469840
swim find it , im reading on PE right now , im just wondering if menthonal better or PE dont matter there both posionus some way.
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:39
No 469842
or maybe even pure ether? if swim could find it.
(Hive Addict)
11-09-03 22:42
No 469846
methanol as in meth-an-ol, ok?
methanol is very polar, PE is very non-polar. that
should answer your question. (i haven't even read the
thing you're talking about)
i'd rather drink some PE than methanol...
n'importe quoi
(Greenhorn)
11-09-03 22:42
No 469847
you ask for a link, you get one and still complain. It doesn't get any easier than that. That extraction is a pretty basic one. If your complaining about that one you should find a new hobby.
I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:53
No 469852
i am not complain, im just asking questions wondering , about the chemicals , and is there is any better suitable chemicals , then those , sorry for my english and grammar mistakes.
(Stranger)
11-09-03 22:58
No 469854
I think reading the hive faq might help you out man.
Bee's get tired and frustrated at answering the same questions a hundred times,questions they took the time and effort to learn for themselves.
good luck again.Peace,chambered.
Bee's can't die,we multiply......
(Hive Bee)
11-09-03 23:01
No 469856
"i'd rather drink some PE than methanol..."
I agree, I would take a seizure over permanent blindness any day.
--Word on the street is, You Reap What You Sow
(Stranger)
11-09-03 23:03
No 469857
well ok , thanks.
(Old P2P Cook)
11-09-03 23:15
No 469859
Different solvents have different properties - they dissolve different things etc.
Methanol and petroleum ether are about as different as two solvents can be. It is very unlikely that you would ever find a procedure that calls for one of these solvents where you could use the other in its place.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
(Stranger)
11-09-03 23:27
No 469863
can you guys recommend any good books for a noob to learn about these chemicals, like what type of chemicals are polar and non polar , and then stuff like water baths , and stuff like this also.
(Hive Bee)
11-10-03 00:12
No 469873
"The Organic Chem Lab Survival Manual" by J. W. Zubrick
seems to be the most noted here
And TFSE & Rhodiums page of course
T
(Stranger)
11-10-03 04:18
No 469920
ok , swim decides that he would use PE for the non polar , but he dont know if he should use EverClear 155 or Bacardi 151? or is there something better , that swim might able to get his hands on , that would work alot better.
(Stranger)
11-10-03 04:30
No 469922
would this work better
http://www.al-chymist.com/site/579340/pr
i guess its called Anhydrous Alcohol , 200 proof? would this work as a better polar?
(Hive Bee)
11-10-03 04:31
No 469923
Petroleum Ether is not something you can ingest, and not something you can find in alchoholic products, Everclear is 90 grain ETHANOL, ethyl ether and petroleum ether are completely different and are used in mechanics, I think petroleum ether is too, but not sure.
--Word on the street is, You Reap What You Sow
(Old P2P Cook)
11-10-03 04:39
No 469925
Petroleum Ether is not something you can ingest, and not something you can find in alchoholic products, Everclear is 90 grain ETHANOL, ethyl ether and petroleum ether are completely different and are used in mechanics,
I think that EMC understands this. The typical procedure for extracting LSAs from morning glory seeds calls for the use of both an alcohol and then petroleum ether.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
(Stranger)
11-10-03 04:39
No 469927
no no , not ingest , hah
PE for the non polar. to get rid of the bad stuff out seeds
and well , i dont know what would be better EverClear , Bacaradi or that Anhydrous Alcohol or if there something better ? for the Polar Extraction for the good stuff in the seed.
(Hive Bee)
11-10-03 04:42
No 469929
Woops, I have been missing shit like that for weeks, sorry man, yeah, you can just get some 180 proof from the local liquor store for your purpose.
--Word on the street is, You Reap What You Sow
(Old P2P Cook)
11-10-03 04:44
No 469930
You are likely to have trouble getting ahold of anhydrous alcohol. Since you don't want to use methanol then 95% reagent grade alcohol would probably be next best and after that then the Everclear.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
(Stranger)
11-10-03 04:47
No 469931
they dont sale nothing over EverClear 155 where i live, but i could get this
http://www.al-chymist.com/site/579340/pr
Denatured Anhydrous Alcohol , but i dont know what Denatured means.
(Hive Bee)
11-10-03 04:51
No 469932
Denatured means it isn't fit for ingestion, we have that here too, that would work even better than 180 proof, BTW what kind of country would regulate the proof of your booze, and force you to extract LSA, No Offense, I'm just curious buddy.
--Word on the street is, You Reap What You Sow
(Stranger)
11-10-03 04:56
No 469933
california ,usa
(Stranger)
11-10-03 04:59
No 469934
they just have laws , i ve never seen anything above 155, nothing is forced , hah , swim just doing it for fun and just for learning new things.
(Hive Bee)
11-10-03 05:05
No 469935
That's cool, in my state we are a bunch of heavy drinkin, wife beatin, pot smokin hillbillies, so things are more lax here and more on the low down than in a high profile area like that, maybe alot of alchahol poisonings there, I still remember when I got Alchahol poising, I was cohereint nut I had a level of 1.8 and I didn't need charcoal since I hadn't had a drink since 30 minutes before the ambulance came and they gave me Librium, Librium beats the hell out of every drug I've ever had, I was still high the next morning, where I was strip searched since my blood tests also came back positive for other stuff
But It's not hard to get anyone's clothes off when their fucked up on Librium, anyway I digress, Good luck with the LSA.
--Word on the street is, You Reap What You Sow
(Hive Bee)
11-11-03 00:24
No 470025
we have "95%" grain alc. here...i cant believe that they dont sell that everywhere in the US. Perhaps visit a huge discount liquor outlet?
Denatured Alcohol usually means that theyve added methanol to the ethanol to make it unfit for consumption. It would be usable for your purposes here.
(Stranger)
11-11-03 05:00
No 470099
well swim some how ended up with some Denatured Anhydrous Alcohol. he figured this is the best stuff he could find over anything else , since it pure and he just has to make sure its fully evaporated , before hand. he was wondering if there is any way to tell if it fully vaporated it not.