a3d0a3m (Hive Bee)
11-27-03 22:47
No 473572
      Mesc extraction problem - snot     

Swim is trying to extract mescaline from Peruvian Torch. So far, swim powdered 35g of dried outer flesh and added 500ml of dH2O. Then swim heated in a steam bath for 4 hours and lowered the pH to 2 with ~30% HCl. When stirring, the entire thing feels like goo/snot. Swim attempted to filter said snot but it wouldn't separate. Swim tried freezing said snot but that resulted in no change in the snot after thawing out. Any suggestions as to how to destroy this snot into something filterable? Swim was thinking that adding a non-polar solvent would perhaps break up this snot but has no idea whether it would work or not.
Thanks
 
 
 
 
    SMACK_WHORE
(Hive Bee)
11-27-03 23:43
No 473579
      try just using the snot mix as it is ie just...     

try just using the snot mix as it is ie just add ur non polar too it.the snot might get sucked into ur non polar or it could just sit there not interfering with swiu's experiment.be a real scientist and try some tests on small samples of ur goo....

"if i had a nickel for every penny id have a lottle o quaters!"-george turnbog (:o)
 
 
 
 
    fnord
(Stranger)
11-28-03 10:01
No 473654
      snot extraction     

yeah try adding your non poler or liquify it some mor to pass it thru the filter
byby im trypin
 
 
 
 
    311311311
(Hive Bee)
11-29-03 04:16
No 473753
      very hard     

mescaline is almost the hardest of hallucinogens to try and extract. maybe the hardest of everything organic.  but there is a way if u can follow it.  u can pm me if u want the article if have but it is very not easy.  my suggestion is to make the "snot" into jello shots.  the best conceivable way to consume the most horrible tasting crap in the world.  once u've eaten peoty, nothing else ever tastes as bad.  good luck.
 
 
 
 
    Oxygen
(Stranger)
11-29-03 17:46
No 473826
      mescaline extraction     

Why don't you basify the cactus goo, cover it with toluene, xylene, heptane, ether, or some other solvent that floats on water, stir it in a beaker for half an hour, allow the layers to separate for several hours, and pour off the solvent?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
        -- fortune
 
 
 
 
    a3d0a3m
(Hive Bee)
11-30-03 20:26
No 473998
      Possible solution and another Question     

I found on another site which has many extraction tips www.nansnook.com that pressure cooking will denature the slime and allow for filtering through t-shirt material easily. My problem now is that I have some snot with xylene on it... I tried to freeze and separate the xylene but some residue remains so I am afraid of putting a beaker that smells like xylene on a pressure cooker on a gas stove. Is there another easy method to separate this xylene from the snot? I was thinking maybe just attaching a plastic hose from the p-cooker vent and running it out the window or using a electric range or just setting the xylene/snot mixture in a container of hot water in front of a fan to evap the xylene. any suggestions as to the easiest way to do this?
Btw I started another extraction and am pcooking the water/cactus snot mix right now to see if it works. if it doesnt at least it does not have any acid or xylene in it so I could jello shoot it (yech).
adam
 
 
 
 
    fnord
(Stranger)
12-02-03 09:53
No 474319
      solevent removel     

boiling it off at a low temp should be fine i used a simeler setup in my very first distilastion


if anyone of them could explain it,id give them sixpence theres not an atom of meaning in it. -alice in wonderland
 
 
 
 
    hordeninedude
(Stranger)
12-11-03 07:41
No 476154
      enzyme digestion     

I agree that you should just perform the non polar solvent extraction on the whole bunch of goo. But, and this is a shot in the dark, if your worried about the mucilage binding product so that the non polar can't get it out, maybe you should experiment on a small sample: Try adding pectinase( from a wine store) or some multienzyme tabs (from a health food store)-some of these tabs contain cellulase. Let it sit for a few hours at room temp then see if it liquified and extract it.
 
 
 
 
    Dysprosium
(Stranger)
12-16-03 17:34
No 477293
      Why not just blend up the whole thing in a NP...     

Why not just blend up the whole thing in a NP solvent, then bubble some NH3 through it to convert salts to freebase, then acidifie too ppt. There is a more in depth thread at the nook about this method.