Chinaman (Stranger)
08-14-01 00:34
No 204287
      phenylalanine reduced to amphet maybe??  Bookmark   

well i was looking thru an old organic chem book and i came upon an interesting reduction of carboxylic acids to aldehydes
it involves producing an acyl halide then reducing that with H2,Pd,and BaSO4 and a catalyst moderator
well i have two questions about this
first without the moderator will it be reduced to a methyl group or an alcohol group
and if i get an aldehyde can that be reduced just like pheylacetone or does the double bonded O need to be on the middle carbon in the chain?
any answers to these questions or referenced to patents would be greatly apriciated

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    PolytheneSam
(Master Searcher)
08-14-01 00:40
No 204293
      Re: phenylalanine reduced to amphet maybe??  Bookmark   

Looks like the acyl halide group would react with the amino group probably on another molecule forming an amide bond, ie. producing a polymer.  Interesting way to make a peptide.

http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF.html
 
 
 
 
    Chinaman
(Stranger)
08-14-01 15:27
No 204407
      Re: phenylalanine reduced to amphet maybe??  Bookmark   

damn well i was hoping that that wouldnt be the case
o well back to the drawing board
thankslaugh

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    methwerx
(Stranger)
09-02-01 19:09
No 209510
      Re: phenylalanine reduced to amphet maybe??  Bookmark   

Check out my kolbe post in crystal methwink

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
09-02-01 19:10
No 209511
      Re: phenylalanine reduced to amphet maybe??  Bookmark   

Also check out the thread starting with post Post 194986 (Rhodium: "First published direct reduction of COOH to CH3", Serious Chemistry).