Throb (Stranger)
05-16-00 18:25
No 5333
      24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

SWIM is about to get a distillation apparatus but he don't know if 19/22 or 24/40 is better for him.  He told me it was for small scale experiences. 

What's the difference between 19/22 and 24/40?  I'm not talking about the difference between the two size but the difference between applications and what you can do.

Danke,

Throb

 
 
 
 
    deltaT
(Stranger)
05-16-00 18:58
No 5355
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

Ah, not application but what you can do. In that case SWIMS should get 24/40. And for other reasons. 24/40 is truly the standard in the industry. Most other glass pieces seem to be so much more readily available in the 24/40 size.

 
 
 
 
    Osmium
(Moderator)
05-17-00 04:18
No 5653
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

Attention non-US bees: don't buy 24/40 or 19/22. Such glassware is occasionally available, but those joint sizes aren't used often in Europe. Think 29/32. Or 14/23 for small scale.

 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
05-17-00 15:31
No 5862
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

I can agree that 24/40 is pretty uncommon, but not so with 19/22. I believe 29/32 and 14/23 setups should be completed with a 19/22 one to make sure one has a setup for every reaction size.

If I would have to use only one size setup, I would choose 19/22.

The cutest setups are about 10/20 in size, but they are so rare I've only seen two in my life.

http://rhodium.lycaeum.org
 
 
 
 
    budwizard
(Stranger)
05-18-00 10:17
No 6190
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

This cat that used to be a dog left me a note that said that 24/40 glassware was too big for the reactions he tried, especially distillation, unless you're distilling like more than 1L. In smaller volumes the cat/dog said the vapor tended to have problems. Remember as you distill to switch to smaller sized flasks as the volume in the distilling flask gets too low.

THE BUDWIZARD
 
 
 
 
    randolph_carter
(Stranger)
05-18-00 12:36
No 6238
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

the lizards on callisto seem to concur with the 19/22(occasionally labeled 19/38...go figure...)size....
the usage of that size is great tasting and less filling....
not as much waste and distillation column "holdup"....
but as has been mentioned not "everything" is available in 19/22.....
but then not "everything" is available in 24/40 either...
or 14/20 for that matter...

in 19/22 sets....
max size normally is 500ml flask without adapter...
swim found a 1l flask in "clearseal joints"....
swim has seen 5l 24/40 reaction flasks attached to an otherwise 19/22 sized "set" in dreamscapes that for all intents and purposes were fine in a dream within a dream....

just light on a beam.....



"remember little ones, love is real,not fade away, so pass some on today......"
 
 
 
 
    CherrieBaby
(Stranger)
05-24-00 14:30
No 8883
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

yes - there does seem to be a difference between the USA and the rest of the world! - size matters. In the UK 24/29 is a handy common size. 29/32 is rare - it usually has to be specially ordered.


 
 
 
 
    mnm
(Hive Bee)
05-28-00 06:59
No 10333
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

Kids around here say 24/40 all the way!


-mnm



 
 
 
 
    harry_lime
(Stranger)
06-01-00 11:05
No 12454
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

Same with Aus 24/29

 
 
 
 
    Fuchem
(Hive Bee)
06-03-00 07:22
No 13247
      Re: 24/40 or 19/22  Bookmark   

One benefit of going 19/22 is price. On Ebay, 19/22 goes for lots less almost every time. It is a great size for short naps and small dreams. For the true microscale dreamer, the Kimble microscale kits are the cutest thing ever!

 
 
 
 
    blondie
(Hive Bee)
11-18-02 16:14
No 380938
      question about 14/23  Bookmark   

what is the largest flask size that would be practical to use with 14/23 sized quickfit joints - for both distillation and reflux? some manufacturers carry only small pear shaped flasks 20-50ml in 14/23 while others have them up to 500ml. is there any reason why a 14/23 setup could not be used with a 250 or 500ml rb? 
 
 
 
 
    pickler
(Greenhorn)
11-18-02 18:45
No 380994
      Blondie, you gotta think about getting that ...  Bookmark   

Blondie, you gotta think about getting that stirbar into the flask. Try having a 3l rbf with a 19/22 joint. Youwon't be able to get the proper size stirbar in there to stir it. Swim had this happen to him in the very begining. Bought all 19/22stuff and realized it's only good upto a certian size. 24/40 is a good size for your average bee.

I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin

 
 
 
 
    terbium
(Old P2P Cook)
11-18-02 21:43
No 381062
      Quickfit?  Bookmark   

14/23 sized quickfit joints
What is a "quickfit" joint? Is it the same as "Standard Taper"?

Baseline Does Not Exist.
 
 
 
 
    BlingBling
11-19-02 03:16
      45/50 rb's n' condensors.
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    pHarmacist
11-19-02 03:20
      Isn't The Couch aimed for other B.S.?
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    BlingBling
(Hive Bee)
11-19-02 03:24
No 381150
      Sorry.  Bookmark   

24/40 is great if you live in North America.
 
 
 
 
    blondie
(Hive Bee)
11-19-02 21:15
No 381472
      14/23  Bookmark   

Madmax and Pickler thanks for the good advice - seems like i am going to have to stretch the budget.

Terbium, I meant generic glassware with standard taper when i wrote 'quickfit' - however checking google i see that this is a actually a manufacturer. thanks for the clarification.
 
 
 
 
    PolytheneSam
(Master Searcher)
11-20-02 03:27
No 381537
      You can use adapters for connecting together the ...  Bookmark   

You can use adapters for connecting together the different sizes.

http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF.html
The hardest thing to explain is the obvious
 
 
 
 
    methium
(Hive Bee)
12-16-02 00:51
No 389936
      yes  Bookmark   

Hell just go ball and socket and eliminate the "size" issha altogether.wink

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    terbium
(Old P2P Cook)
12-16-02 06:41
No 389967
      Ball and socket ...  Bookmark   

have sizes also which still need to be matched up.

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