07-09-04 11:36
No 518410
hello bees,
swim wanna make dihydrocodeinone as described in rhodium's site (../rhodium /dihydro
so, WHERE COULD I FIND "PALLADIUM BLACK" ???
if not, can an other otc catalyst be used (nickel...)?
thank you
(Stoni's sexual toy)
07-11-04 08:19
No 518702
> WHERE COULD I FIND "PALLADIUM BLACK" ???
Sigma/Aldrich/Fluka
Merck
Johnson-Mattey/Alfa Aesar
Engelhard
and so on
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(Newbee)
07-12-04 01:26
No 518843
thank you osmium, but i don't like this companies
. are platinum or palladium used otc (electronic...), and if so, where can i find them ?
and again, can OTHER CATALYST be used in that reaction(nickel...) ?
(Chief Bee)
07-12-04 02:28
No 518865
can OTHER CATALYST be used in that reaction(nickel...) ?
Nickel is likely not active enough for that procedure, but I doubt it has been experimentaly proven.
are platinum or palladium used otc (electronic...), and if so, where can i find them ?
1. For the preparation of Palladium and Platinum Black, read my Palladium/Platinum Catalyst Preparation FAQ (../rhodium /pd-cat
2. UTFSE for OTC sources of the necessary chemicals.
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(Newbee)
07-12-04 07:06
No 518909
excuse me rhod, but i cant make the preparations described in your faq.
the commercial sources on internet have outrageous prices.
then,i utfse and i read palladium (black is the one i want) can be found otc at "local car wreckers', electronic stores, bullions dealers...
-could anybody tell me more about it ?
-and again, is there an other catalyst i could use instead of Pd and Ni ?
thank you
(Hive Bee)
07-12-04 13:56
No 518960
commercial sources on internet have outrageous prices
Off course, what did you expect, palladium is a very precious metal and more expensive than gold.
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(Hive Bee)
07-12-04 23:21
No 519057
and again, is there an other catalyst i could use instead of Pd and Ni ?
Probably some other weird and wonderfull transition metal compound.
There have been threads on palladium from catalytic converters etc, utfse. There are some other places that may order it for you... utf google.
As for prices, palladium is as its been said more expensive than gold, but you only need a tiny bit. Why dont you try and find Ni metal... its not hard, and less expensive than palladium.
-AC
Its just my opinion, but no-one listens to me anyway, and rightly so...
(Stoni's sexual toy)
07-13-04 01:51
No 519089
> excuse me rhod, but i cant make the preparations described in your faq.
Then what's the point in asking these questions?
> the commercial sources on internet have outrageous prices.
Get used to it, it worked for me. At my workplace regular platinum metal is considered a cheap material, and I don't even bother anymore when I waste 200mg of it and end up pouring it down the drain. Then again I don't need to pay it out of my own pocket.
> i read palladium (black is the one i want) can be found otc at "local
> car wreckers', electronic stores, bullions dealers...
Palladium black cannot be found OTC. It needs to be prepared from regular palladium metal or palladium compounds.
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(Hive Bee)
07-13-04 03:39
No 519096
Today:
Gold 10,36 EUR/g
Pd 5,50 EUR/g
Pt ~21,00 EUR/g
roger2003
(Newbee)
07-13-04 06:33
No 519107
(Rated as: you have already gotten that answered)
i better forget palladium.
can the reaction (codeine to hydrocodone) be done with nickel ?
(Stoni's sexual toy)
07-14-04 02:44
No 519365
> Gold 10,36 EUR/g
> Pd 5,50 EUR/g
> Pt ~21,00 EUR/g
Whoa, that's cheap! Compare that to the prices of the usual chemical suppliers, Johnson Matthey wants about 140-200 EUR for a gram of platinum!
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(Newbee)
07-14-04 06:09
No 519374
very interesting prices, but can it be found in other places than chem companies?
(Hive Bee)
07-14-04 14:22
No 519431
Would Skanic like someone to search the internet for him? And what would Sir consider a fair price to pay for his catalyst?
Just go look around and find it. It isn't that hard.
Jeez.
(Stranger)
07-24-04 17:26
No 521439
Most jewelers sell platinum turnings / dust .