11-24-01 12:21
No 240044
Here is a patent method of producing metal (alkali metals) cyanides from the corresponing nitrate or nitrite.
http://www.geocities.com/timsonguk/cyani
(Hive Bee)
12-13-01 22:22
No 247409
does anybody have a practical way of using this patent with limited supplies availability?
(Hive Bee)
12-14-01 11:58
No 247565
How are your supplies limited ?
It isn't too hard to make a small electric arc furnace, you just need some fire brick/fireclay, graphite welding rods and a decent power supply (arc welder).
(Hive Bee)
12-14-01 13:40
No 247607
do you have graphic version of what you just said (and no, that doesn't mean verbally graphic) thanks for the help.
(Hive Bee)
12-14-01 13:53
No 247612
The furnace would be very simular to one needed to make phosphorus, check out some of the phosphorus threads, I remember one decribing the making a small arc furnace out of a clay flowerpot !
The arc furnace is decribed in detail in most good chemistry books, just scale down.
(Stoni's sexual toy)
12-15-01 13:13
No 247913
> do you have graphic version of what you just said (and
> no, that doesn't mean verbally graphic) thanks for the
> help.
What is your problem? Look at the link, it contains all you need. It helps to check page two if you know what I mean.
(Hive Bee)
01-09-02 13:57
No 254491
After reading the patent US6207024 regarding the preparation of phosphorus in which a mixture of phosphoric acid and carbon reductant are heated in microwaves at a much lower temperature than what would be needed in an electric furnace. It leaves me to believe that microwave heating of nitrite and carbon would give cyanide results at a much lower temperature too.
Obviously the microwave heating would have to be done in a non oxidising atmosphere (nitrogen/argon/helium).
Doing the same using nitrates and carbon may cause some problems as I can imagine the mix burning like gunpowder when rapidly heated in the microwaves.
The reaction chamber could consist of a fireclay container as this would not be affected by the microwaves.
What do you think bees ?
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