psychokitty (Her Majesty, Stoni's Kitty)
04-12-02 23:38
No 296354
      Trichloro isocyanuric acid from the sodium salt?  Bookmark   

Does anybee have any ideas about how to go from sodium dichloro isocyanuric acid to trichloro isocyanuric acid?  The sodium salt seems to be more OTC available.
 
 
 
 
    Aurelius
(Hive Bee)
04-12-02 23:40
No 296355
      Purpose  Bookmark   

And just what might you do with that acid?
 
 
 
 
    psychokitty
(Her Majesty, Stoni's Kitty)
04-12-02 23:47
No 296358
      It has various uses, primarily as a mild oxidant ...  Bookmark   

It has various uses, primarily as a mild oxidant for conversion of alcohols to ketones.

But the sodium salt of the acid is more readily available OTC whereas the free acid is not.

BTW, the free acid is the form of the acid used in the scientific literature.
 
 
 
 
    Aurelius
(Hive Bee)
04-13-02 19:39
No 296644
      Perhaps  Bookmark   

Maybe you could just form it in-situ with a strong but dilute acid such as HCl or H2SO4.  as long as your reactants aren't acid sensitive.
 
 
 
 
    Hansje
(Hive Bee)
04-14-02 13:02
No 296884
      chlorine  Bookmark   

That would have to be done very careful, otherwise shitloads of chlorine will evolve (I found outcrazy).

Hansje high in proteine and fibre!
 
 
 
 
    Aurelius
(Hive Bee)
04-14-02 13:57
No 296895
      Chlorine  Bookmark   

As long as the acid doesn't have to much oxidizing potential, that shouldn't be a problem.  perhaps a weaker, organic acid could be used.  Acetic acid, maybe?
 
 
 
 
    Mountain_Girl
(Hive Bee)
04-15-02 05:22
No 297171
      Trichloroisocyanuric acid  Bookmark   

PK:

Fortunately, where I come from the free acid (TCCA) is available OTC. Therefore I'd be very interested in any details concerning conversion of alcohols to ketones, or any other uses of this compound.

If TCCA is formed from:
cyanuric acid + 3Cl2 + 3NaOH,
DCCA (dichloroisocyanuric acid) from:
cyanuric acid + 2Cl2 + 2NaOH,
perhaps it would be possible to hydrolyze the DCCA sodium salt back to cyanuric acid, and then synth TCCA with the appropriate molar ratios of Cl2 and NaOH ?

 
 
 
 
    paranoid
(Hive Bee)
04-15-02 23:16
No 297592
      swimming  Bookmark   

I believe that trichloroisocyanuric acid is commonly found in swimming pool chlorinating pucks... I've worked for a pool company for the last few summers and I'm certain that's what's in them.  Smells terrible.