Elementary
(Hive Addict) 07-04-02 04:25 No 328661 |
Benzyl Isocyanide | Bookmark | ||||||
Or maybe phenylacetonisonitrile ? Does or can this chemical exist ? Could it be made like this : C6H5CH2NH2 + CHCl3 + 3KOH = C6H5CH2NC + 3KCl + 3H2O John Lennon - Working Class Hero |
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Nemo_Tenetur (Hive Bee) 07-04-02 07:16 No 328705 |
undesired byproduct | Bookmark | ||||||
Yes, isonitriles exist. They are undesired byproducts in the synthesis from benzylchloride and alkali cyanide. You can destroy the isonitriles with concentrated sulphuric acid. See the "organic syntheses" for a detailed recipe. Isonitrile has a very unpleasant smell. |
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Elementary (Hive Addict) 07-04-02 07:31 No 328709 |
benzylamine to benzyl cyanide ! | Bookmark | ||||||
I know that isonitriles rearrange themselves to nitriles if heated. I was thinking of using this as a path to benzyl cyanide from benzylamine. Toluene/Benzyl Alcohol > Benzyl Chloride > Benzylamine > Benzyl Isocyanide > Benzyl Cyanide > Phenylacetic Acid John Lennon - Working Class Hero |
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Aurelius (Hive Bee) 07-04-02 13:15 No 328809 |
experiment | Bookmark | ||||||
You'll have to experiment with it to find out for sure if that method will work, but a very clever idea. |
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PrimoPyro (Hive Prodigy) 07-04-02 14:59 No 328828 |
Hey! | Bookmark | ||||||
Can this be done to an aniline? Ph-NH2 --> Ph-N#C (# = triple bond) That would be great! Or one could turn a benzylamine of your choosing into the phenethylamine of your choosing by PhCH2-NH2 --> PhCH2-N#C --> PhCH2-C#N --> PhCH2CH2-NH2 (via reduction) hmm, 2,5-dimethoxy-N-methyl-aniline --> 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl-aniline, and from there to 2CD. PrimoPyro |
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Elementary (Hive Addict) 07-04-02 15:50 No 328840 |
Struggling | Bookmark | ||||||
I am really struggling to find any details on the rearangement of isonitriles to nitriles (isocyanides to cyanides). I have done extensive patent searching with no results and also comprehensive engine searches with no luck. All I have is a small passage in an organic chemistry book saying that, on heating isonitriles undergo rearrangement, forming nitriles. Another interesting thing I found : A newer method of synthesizing nitriles is to pass the vapour of the carboxylic acid or its ester, mixed with ammonia, over heated alumina at 500°c. John Lennon - Working Class Hero |
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Aurelius (Hive Bee) 07-05-02 08:41 No 329056 |
isomerization | Bookmark | ||||||
Try heating the isonitriles in a high boiling suitable solvent (water free, and non-reactive with the isonitrile or the product) at temps around 180-220*C for a couple of hours then test however you can. |
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