stratosphere
(Newbee) 10-21-03 23:07 No 466005 |
best solvent for sn1 | |||||||
i was trying to decide what the best solvent for a sn1 substitution would be, that would not react with the resultant carbocation. in particular for a relativly hindered secondary iodo alkane (4-iodo-3-hydro-arcoline), with the iodine to be replaced with benzoate ion, id assume this would only have a good chance to proceed via a sn1. i was thinking maybe dmso? |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 10-22-03 03:04 No 466045 |
Solvents for SN1 | |||||||
SN1 reaction rates are enhanced by protic, polar solvents (which has a high dielectric constant) which make the rate determining step faster because they facilitate the production of the ionic intermediates by stabilizing the separated charges. Ref: http://falcon.sbuniv.edu/~ggray/CHE3304/ |
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stratosphere (Hive Bee) 10-22-03 03:37 No 466051 |
thats one of the reasons i contimplated dmso,... | |||||||
thats one of the reasons i contimplated dmso, is its high dielectric constant. but i understand it does not solvate anions well, so the rate at which iodine leaves might be slowed. the problem with most protic solvents that i can think of is that they are apt to participate in side reactions with the carbocation and create for example a ether or alcohol rather then the desired benzoate-ester. so what would be a good compromise of "proticity", polarity, and low reactivity? |
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Disciple (Newbee) 10-23-03 06:52 No 466236 |
How bout a mix | |||||||
DMSO although it has a high dielectric polarization is Aprotic, you need a Protic solvent with a high dielectric polarization. A mix of 80% water and 20% ethanol is reported to give a rate increase of 14,000 times that of the reaction in ethanol, this mix might give you enough solubility and a good rate of reaction. But in the end it depends on your compounds solubility and reactivity as to which solvent you choose. |
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stratosphere (Hive Bee) 10-24-03 01:24 No 466422 |
i also didn't realize dmso had such a high... | |||||||
i also didn't realize dmso had such a high b.p., that would make workup rather difficult. since im trying to make a bezoate ester, and don't want the ether or alchol to form from reaction with the solvent, perhaps a good strategy would be to start with methanol(which reactes 10^5 times more slowly then water with tertbutylchloride) saturated with sodium benzoate, if it proceeds too slowly then increase the water:methanol ratio. |
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