Synthesisof Substituted 1-Arylindanes , Hive Chemistry Discourse
 
    lutesium 10-06-04 15:56
      <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=534678&page=0&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">Synthesisof Substituted 1-Arylindanes</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: off-topic)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534698"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="2" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#FF0033">Rhodium</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Chief Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-06-04 19:20</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534698]">No 534698</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Always post journal names/page/volume with PDF's</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> What is your point with posting this article anyway? There is a picture of isosafrole on page 3 of the article, but no reactions are performed with it and all the products they make are useless for our purposes. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><sup>The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders</sup></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534722"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="2" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> lutesium<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-06-04 21:49</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534722]">No 534722</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Rhodium I wanted to post some reactions which...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> Rhodium <br><br>I wanted to post some reactions which are about general chemistry. I wrote the topics of my posts so anyone who wishes to ignore wont read it. But I thought some bee who wishes to learn some new knowledge migh be interested as I do. <br><br>Just shared the info </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534742"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="2" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#FF0033">Rhodium</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Chief Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-07-04 00:02</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534742]">No 534742</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Please stay on topic in the future</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> I strongly advise you against cluttering the board with random articles with no application at all to the topic of interest, which is the chemistry of mind-altering compounds. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><sup>The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders</sup></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534762"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td class="new_post_bg" rowspan="2" title="This is a new post"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> lutesium<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-07-04 02:40</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534762]">No 534762</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Ok rhodium. I'll stay on topic.</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> Ok rhodium. I'll stay on topic. But I'm only sharing my labor with this site and trying to add whatever I find important. These are what I read and I wanted to add them here. Maybe it interested someone else <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="Smile" heigth="15" width="15">.<br><br>Maybe we should create novel pharmaceuicals so thesynthesis of an arylindane will draw attention <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="Laugh" heigth="15" width="15"><br><br>Dont you like reading these kind of novel synthetic reports? </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom" class="new_post_bg" title="This is a new post"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534783"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> psychokitty<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">«<img src="../forum/images/star.gif">»</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-07-04 06:41</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534783]">No 534783</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">One of those references looks interesting . . .</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> The following reference found on the citations page of the PDF you posted, lutesium, might shed some light as to the nature of the acid catalyzed dimerization of ring substituted propenyl benzenes -- particularly, isosafrole.<br><br><b>Tricyclic dimers of propenylphenyl ethers-I NMR and stereochemistry.</b>  <br><i>MacMillan, J; I.L.; Morris, D.J.</i>  <br><u>Tetrahedron <b>1969</b>, 25, 905-914.</u><br><br>Rhodium, do you have online access to this journal article?  It might prove interesting to read.<br><br>BTW, lutesium, the paper might come in handy if one was to ever determine that such HIGHLY substituted phenethylamines are indeed active, but, for now, all one can do is guess. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534814"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> lutesium<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-07-04 13:38</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534814]">No 534814</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">That was my point psychokitty.</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> That was my point psychokitty. <br><br>Also the reference you mention seems to be interesting for the understanding of dimerisation of allylbenzenes and might let us learn how to avoid it maybe.. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post534841"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#FF0033">Rhodium</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Chief Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">10-07-04 19:43</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [534841]">No 534841</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">DOI + Abstract</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">    </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> I can't access that article myself, but here is its full abstract along with its DOI link to make the retrieval easier for anyone who <b>has</b> access to the Tetrahedron backfiles.<br><br><b>Tricyclic dimers of propenylphenyl ethers. I. NMR and stereochemistry</b><br><i>J. MacMillan, I. L. Martin, D. J. Morris</i>, <u>Tetrahedron 25(4), 905-914 (1969)</u><br>DOI:<a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/0040%2D4020%2869%2985024%2D6" target="_blank" title="Jump to this online publication">10.1016/0040-4020(69)85024-6</a><br><br><b>Abstract</b><br>From their NMR spectra, the α- and γ-racemates of the phenylindanes, obtained by acid-induced dimerization of isohomogenol and isosafrole, are shown to possess the 1,2-cis-2,3-trans-and 1,2-trans-2,3-trans-configurations respectively. This conclusion contradicts the configurations previously assigned to these racemates. Metanethole the dimer of anethole is shown to be the γ-racemate, that is, the 1,2-trans-2,3-trans-racemate. 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