<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=477381&page=49&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">hypo cook gone wrong</a> (Rated as: UTFSE!) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post477393"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> wareami (Hive Addict) 12-17-03 14:17 No 477393 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> What have we learned? </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> We've learned that anybee can extract pfed with practice. What they extract is reliant on the method chosen to extract said formulation or strength. We've learned that OrangeII gaak cannot be detected with the naked eye in a pile of extracted E or pfed. Tests performed prior to rxn SHOULD be a good indication of the feeds quality. This is dependant on the testing method. And that is dependant on the detection experience of the tester. Never assume that the bee before you doing the extraction is qualified or experienced enough to detect the tougher to detect inhibitors or denaturants. The price to pay for the undersite will be the waittime it takes for the encapsulation effects to subside! One to 3 daze depending on the amount! Take Osmiums advice concerning the addition of an abundance of dh2o to the rxnsolution prior to basing and the amine won't become as trapped as it is when standard amounts of dh2o are added! Bees will correct me if I'm wrong. The only two frontside pfed extractions that address OrangeII Gaak are the tetratrap and the slanted egull(tetra and japandrier) <hr>Peace of the RXN Have FUN-Bee SAFE </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post477402"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> geezmeister (Of Counsel) 12-17-03 15:59 No 477402 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> Too little information </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> You provide too little information to even guess what your problem is. Adding salt and tolly isn't going to extract any remaining pseudoephedrine. You would need to dilute the solution you have of psuedo, hypo, I2, and whatever else might be in there, base it to about pH12, then extract to a nonpolar solvent. That doesn't mean you will recover pseudo, or that you had pseudo to recover. Ware overlooks the solvents boils with JD/MEK and JD/Naptha mixtures which also removes the orange II gak. He feels about the full cure method of cleaning like I feel about the egull--- we are on opposite sides of a fence on how we prefer to proceed to get clean pseudo. I like solvent boils and a/b extractions, he prefers tetra combos and alcohol. One of us probably has had too much tequila at some point, but we can't decide which one of us it was. <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="Laugh" heigth="15" width="15"> <hr>mostly harmless </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post477543"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> placebo (arrogant bee of the day) 12-18-03 06:28 No 477543 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> 1.) Whether you have pseudo or meth, you will... </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> 1.) Whether you have pseudo or meth, you will need to basify it( NaOH) to get it to move into the toluene. 2.) Never react anything that you don't know personally is clean. Test it, vapourise on a bit of foil, check it's clean, or at least dissolve in methanol and recrystalise. <hr>I'm not fat, I'm just too short for my weight. <a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">http://www.whatreallyhappened.com</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>

hypo cook gone wrong , Hive Stimulants


		NedKelly 12-17-03 11:44				<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=477381&page=49&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">hypo cook gone wrong</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: UTFSE!)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post477393"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> wareami<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Addict</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">12-17-03 14:17</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [477393]">No 477393</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">What have we learned?</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> We've learned that anybee can extract pfed with practice.<br>What they extract is reliant on the method chosen to extract said formulation or strength.<br>We've learned that OrangeII gaak cannot be detected with the naked eye in a pile of extracted E or pfed.<br>Tests performed prior to rxn SHOULD be a good indication of the feeds quality.<br>This is dependant on the testing method. And that is dependant on the detection experience of the tester.<br>Never assume that the bee before you doing the extraction is qualified or experienced enough to detect the tougher to detect inhibitors or denaturants.<br>The price to pay for the undersite will be the waittime it takes for the encapsulation effects to subside!<br>One to 3 daze depending on the amount!<br>Take Osmiums advice concerning the addition of an abundance of dh2o to the rxnsolution prior to basing and the amine won't become as trapped as it is when standard amounts of dh2o are added!<br>Bees will correct me if I'm wrong.<br>The only two frontside pfed extractions that address OrangeII Gaak are the tetratrap and the slanted egull(tetra and japandrier) <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>Peace of the R<sub>X</sub>N<br>Have FUN-Bee SAFE</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post477402"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> geezmeister<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Of Counsel</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">12-17-03 15:59</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [477402]">No 477402</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Too little information</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> You provide too little information to even guess what your problem is. Adding salt and tolly isn't going to extract any remaining pseudoephedrine. You would need to dilute the solution you have of psuedo, hypo, I2, and whatever else might be in there, base it to about pH12, then extract to a nonpolar solvent. That doesn't mean you will recover pseudo, or that you had pseudo to recover. <br><br>Ware overlooks the solvents boils with JD/MEK and JD/Naptha mixtures which also removes the orange II gak. He feels about the full cure method of cleaning like I feel about the egull--- we are on opposite sides of a fence on how we prefer to proceed to get clean pseudo. I like solvent boils and a/b extractions, he prefers tetra combos and alcohol. <br><br>One of us probably has had too much tequila at some point, but we can't decide which one of us it was. <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="Laugh" heigth="15" width="15"> <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>mostly harmless</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post477543"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> placebo<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">arrogant bee of the day</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">12-18-03 06:28</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [477543]">No 477543</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">1.) Whether you have pseudo or meth, you will...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> 1.) Whether you have pseudo or meth, you will need to basify it( NaOH) to get it to move into the toluene.<br><br>2.) Never react anything that you don't know personally is clean. Test it, vapourise on a bit of foil, check it's clean, or at least dissolve in methanol and recrystalise. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>I'm not fat, I'm just too short for my weight.<br><a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">http://www.whatreallyhappened.com</a></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>