<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=482401&page=44&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">Removing SALT after carryover from BASING _E_</a> (Rated as: UTFSE!) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482406"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> geezmeister (Of Counsel) 01-14-04 12:24 No 482406 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> alcohol </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> Dissolve the E in alcohol, filter out the salt, evap the alcohol. Are you washing your non-polar before extracting? <hr>mostly harmless </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482408"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> steam (Stranger) 01-14-04 12:38 No 482408 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> TFSEngine didn't do me no-good!!! </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> sorry fellas, but I used TFSE and found no answer/s... Sure, PATIENCE is the KEY as the DOOR is to KNOWLEDGE., - but, I searched with 'SALT'/'BASING'/'REMOVAL' and nothing Frustratingly, I return back to the STIMULANTS FORUM and find 2 more replies from the 8 posted, andcannot accessany of the replies. >Besides the point, am I the only one -being the posteree- that has no accessto the replies ? PLEASE allow me to see the replies, or must I start another thread 'parrallel' to 'rephrase' ?!!! ...no wonder I call myself 'steam' ---I'm ALWAYS UNDERPRESSURE ! </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482413"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> steam (Stranger) 01-14-04 12:55 No 482413 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> In reply </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> thanx geez'. No, I'm not washing it...though from a post I just read a Post back and bookmarked, I will in future as the post made it all so clear on 'washing' which had me confused. Though I havn't 'washed' my NP previously, the results -though very inconsistant - have been pleasing for my first few efforts. I look forward to a cleaner batch though, soon, one day. Oh, and I'm workin' NANO, so with some more eperience I hope to be able to help others - when after I've helped myself.!!! Thanks again ... 'Your've releaved a bit of that pressure. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482501"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> spectralshift (Hive Bee) 01-14-04 22:25 No 482501 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> What was the reason for using salt in the post </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> What was the reason for using salt in the post reaction work-up again? If you saturate the aqueous layer with salt you can add a layer of alcohol on top of that, so you have: NP OH based water no water will pass up to the NP, or salt. no guarantees as to the movements of the goods, swims only started exploring it himself on an orange solution. the results are tainted with uncertantly though, as there were other factors that could have affected the good results. But still itz an interesting area! </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482753"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> livid (Newbee) 01-15-04 23:53 No 482753 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> re: salt problems </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> when titrating,do it one drop at a time, to reach desired ph. meth will pull first. salt will pull 2nd or 3rd pull. if you dump a bunch of acid in and shake, that is your problem. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482773"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> biotechdude (Hive Bee) 01-16-04 01:04 No 482773 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> NP wash and pH comments/questions </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> "...What was the reason for using salt in the post reaction work-up again?..." from <a href="../rhodium /hypotale.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">../rhodium /hypotale.html</a> <<If desired, pour in some salt to help push all the Go-Go up into the NP, but use NON-IONIZED!.>> from <a href="../rhodium /meth.workup.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">../rhodium /meth.workup.html</a> <<brine wash A very good wash with much the same benefits as the lye solution wash is the brine wash...a wash with salt-saturated hot water. This wash also provides a benefit in helping dry the non-polar solvent if you will gas.>> Swix is curious, as many NP wash procedures use plain hot then cold water washes. However, Geez says in the aforementioned article that washes with pH7 DH2O (hot or cold) can loose product. So Swix would think it best that once the meth-fb is in the NP; a hot/warm NaOH solution wash, followed by a cold salt water wash. Cumulatively, these will have the benefit of Na, salt, hot and cold washes of the NP. Or should plain DH20 washes be used as well? Or cold NaOH wash and hot salt water wash? "...when titrating,do it one drop at a time, to reach desired ph. meth will pull first. salt will pull 2nd or 3rd pull. if you dump a bunch of acid in and shake, that is your problem..." True, fast pHing can cause a variety of problems. The main ones being salt production (as mentioned) and colour change to the meth crystals (usually turn pinkish). <hr><<Is chicken-salt non-iodized?>> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>

Removing SALT after carryover from BASING _E_ , Hive Stimulants


		steam 01-14-04 11:59				<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=482401&page=44&view=&sort=5&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">Removing SALT after carryover from BASING _E_</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: UTFSE!)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482406"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> geezmeister<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Of Counsel</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-14-04 12:24</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [482406]">No 482406</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">alcohol</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> Dissolve the E in alcohol, filter out the salt, evap the alcohol. <br><br>Are you washing your non-polar before extracting? <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>mostly harmless</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482408"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> steam<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-14-04 12:38</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [482408]">No 482408</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">TFSEngine didn't do me no-good!!!</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> sorry fellas, but I used TFSE and found no answer/s...<br><br>Sure, PATIENCE is the KEY as the DOOR is to KNOWLEDGE.,<br>- but, I searched with 'SALT'/'BASING'/'REMOVAL' and nothing<br><br>Frustratingly, I return back to the STIMULANTS FORUM and find 2 more replies from the 8 posted, andcannot accessany of the replies.<br><br>>Besides the point, am I the only one -being the posteree-<br> that has no accessto the replies ?<br><br>PLEASE allow me to see the replies,<br>or must I start another thread 'parrallel' to 'rephrase' ?!!!<br><br>...no wonder I call myself 'steam'<br>---I'm ALWAYS UNDERPRESSURE ! </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482413"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> steam<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-14-04 12:55</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [482413]">No 482413</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">In reply</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> thanx geez'.<br>No, I'm not washing it...though from a post I just read a Post back and bookmarked, I will in future as the post made it all so clear on 'washing' which had me confused.<br><br>Though I havn't 'washed' my NP previously, the results -though very inconsistant - have been pleasing for my first few efforts. I look forward to a cleaner batch though, soon, one day.<br><br>Oh, and I'm workin' NANO, so with some more eperience I hope to be able to help others - when after I've helped myself.!!!<br><br>Thanks again ... 'Your've releaved a bit of that pressure. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482501"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> spectralshift<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-14-04 22:25</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [482501]">No 482501</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">What was the reason for using salt in the post</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> What was the reason for using salt in the post reaction work-up again?<br><br>If you saturate the aqueous layer with salt you can add a layer of alcohol on top of that, so you have:<br><br>NP<br>OH<br>based water<br><br>no water will pass up to the NP, or salt. <br><br>no guarantees as to the movements of the goods, swims only started exploring it himself on an orange solution.<br>the results are tainted with uncertantly though, as there were other factors that could have affected the good results.<br>But still itz an interesting area! </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482753"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> livid<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Newbee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-15-04 23:53</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [482753]">No 482753</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">re: salt problems</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> when titrating,do it one drop at a time, to reach desired ph. meth will pull first. salt will pull 2nd or 3rd pull. if you dump a bunch of acid in and shake, that is your problem. </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post482773"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> biotechdude<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Hive Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-16-04 01:04</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [482773]">No 482773</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">NP wash and pH comments/questions</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> "...What was the reason for using salt in the post reaction work-up again?..."<br><br>from <a href="../rhodium /hypotale.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">../rhodium /hypotal<wbr>e.html</a><br><<If desired, pour in some salt to help push all the Go-Go up into the NP, but use NON-IONIZED!.>><br><br>from <a href="../rhodium /meth.workup.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">../rhodium /meth.wo<wbr>rkup.htm<wbr>l</a><br><<brine wash A very good wash with much the same benefits as the lye solution wash is the brine wash...a wash with salt-saturated hot water. This wash also provides a benefit in helping dry the non-polar solvent if you will gas.>><br><br>Swix is curious, as many NP wash procedures use plain hot then cold water washes. However, Geez says in the aforementioned article that washes with pH7 DH2O (hot or cold) can loose product. So Swix would think it best that once the meth-fb is in the NP; a hot/warm NaOH solution wash, followed by a cold salt water wash. Cumulatively, these will have the benefit of Na, salt, hot and cold washes of the NP. Or should plain DH20 washes be used as well? Or cold NaOH wash and hot salt water wash?<br><br>"...when titrating,do it one drop at a time, to reach desired ph. meth will pull first. salt will pull 2nd or 3rd pull. if you dump a bunch of acid in and shake, that is your problem..."<br><br>True, fast pHing can cause a variety of problems. The main ones being salt production (as mentioned) and colour change to the meth crystals (usually turn pinkish). <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><<Is chicken-salt non-iodized?>></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>