02-01-04 19:54
No 485957
I was doing some research and came across these analogs which i coudl ascertain very little information on. Does anyone here have any experience with bis-methamphetamine, fencamfamine, or 2-diphenyl-methylpiperidine?
(Stranger)
02-01-04 21:14
No 485981
Fencamfamine (FCF) is a CNS stimulant that works by blockading the inhibition of dopamine uptake into your brain synapses and it has a potency similiar to amphetamine. Well that's what i was told by my coach who sold it to me, lol!
I took a 0.5g IV dose for a research experiment once, that produced a very clean & subtle buzz which lasted for about 4-5 hours from memory. Nothing special, but I found sex was far more pleasurable using FCF as opposed to rooting on meth. Wouldnt have a bloody clue how to make it but that was my two cents anyway; You did say experiences, right!
(Hive Bee)
02-02-04 13:19
No 486089
are those presumably available through the research chems people?
or do they have some sort of medicainal use etc?
(Stranger)
02-03-04 01:46
No 486164
Stratosphere, at the time I tried it, it was very much sought after by athletes seeking a slight performance boost without resorting to HGH's, testosterone and steroid programs.
Must have a medicinal use somewhere because I doubt my coach would have been buying it off a clandestine cook
Too be honest, I dont know what that use is, but I reckon a google search will answer your questions.
Later man, and remember, drugs R bad!
02-03-04 10:14
(Rated as: off-topic)
(esoteric)
02-03-04 14:00
No 486227
Title: Fencamfamine
CAS Registry Number: 1209-98-9
CAS Name: N-Ethyl-3-phenylbicyclo[2.2.1]heptan-2-a
Additional Names: N-ethyl-3-phenyl-2-norbornanamine;
Trademarks: Euvitol (Allen & Hanburys)
Molecular Formula: C15H21N
Molecular Weight: 215.33.
Percent Composition: C 83.67%, H 9.83%, N 6.50%
Literature References: Prepd from 3-amino-2-phenylnorbornane and acetaldehyde followed by hydrogenation in the presence of PtO2: Thesing et al., DE 1110159 (1961 to E. Merck), C.A. 56, 2352g (1962). Pharmacology: R. Hotovy et al., Arzneimittel-Forsch. 11, 20 (1961).
Properties: bp0.1 128-131°.
Boiling point: bp0.1 128-131°
Derivative Type: Hydrochloride
CAS Registry Number: 2240-14-4
Manufacturers' Codes: H-610
Molecular Formula: C15H21N.HCl
Molecular Weight: 251.80.
Percent Composition: C 71.55%, H 8.81%, N 5.56%, Cl 14.08%
Properties: Crystals from acetone, mp 192°. Freely sol in water, ethanol, methanol, chloroform; slightly sol in benzene. Practically insol in ether. LD50 in mice, rats (mg/kg): 135.0, 113.0 orally; 85.5, 68.5 s.c.; 15.7, 23.5 i.v. (Hotovy).
Melting point: mp 192°
Toxicity data: LD50 in mice, rats (mg/kg): 135.0, 113.0 orally; 85.5, 68.5 s.c.; 15.7, 23.5 i.v. (Hotovy)
NOTE: The hydrochloride is the principal ingredient of Reactivan (Cascan) which also contains vitamins B1, B6, B12 and C.
Therap-Cat: CNS stimulant.
dwarfer
(Hive Addict)
02-03-04 15:19
No 486241
(Rated as: excellent)
Patent GB913866
Improvements in or relating to amino-norcamphane compounds
The invention comprises compounds (having an analeptic action) of the general formula:- wherein X represents 1 or 2, R1 is an aryl, cycloalkyl or heterocyclic radical which may be substituted by halogen or hydroxyl radicals, R2 is hydrogen or alkyl, and R3 and R1 represent hydrogen, alkyl, or cycloalkyl radicals, where these radicals can be the same or different or may be linked to form a ring, either directly or through a hetero atom, provided that (1) none of the radicals R1 to R1 contain more than 15 carbon atoms, (2) R3 and R4 do not simultaneously represent hydrogen, and (3) R3 and R4 do not simultaneously represent methyl when R1 is phenyl, R2 is hydrogen and X is 1; also their physiologically tolerable acid addition salts and quaternary ammonium compounds, together with a process for their preparation by alkylating the corresponding primary amine of general formula:- The alkylation may be performed by any known method, e.g. condensation with alkyl or aralkyl halides, reaction with formic acid and an aldehyde, reduction of an N-acyl derivative, reaction with a low alcohol in the presence of Raney nickel, or via a Schiff's base. The bases may then be converted into acid addition salts or quaternary ammonium derivatives. Belgian Specifications 557,666 and 557,667 and German Specifications 1,001,257 and 1,039,061 are referred to.
"The new compounds possess excellent compatability and show no secondary effects. Compared with the nearest similar compound described in the literature i.e. 2-phenyl-3-dimethylamino-bicyclo(2,2,1)-
In the patent they use reductive alkylation to obtain the N-alkylated compounds from 2-phenyl-3-amino-bicyclo(2,2,1)-heptane.
J Am Chem Soc 61 (1939) 521
J Am Chem Soc 73 (1951) 5068
J Org Chem 8 (1943) 373
Maybe it would get more interesting with the right substituents on the aromatic ring, say 2,5-dimethoxy-4-bromo for example..
http://tinyurl.com/223dg
http://tinyurl.com/2z9gn
(Chief Bee)
02-04-04 19:42
No 486484
I think this is related: Post 106478 (Epikur: "US 5,284,976 Method of Producing Primary Amines in", Chemistry Discourse)
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