02-03-04 21:20
No 486279
Sorbitan Monooleate CAS 9005-65-6 aka Polysorbate 80
is a mixture of oleate esters of sorbitol and sorbitol anhydrides, consisting predominantly of the monoester,
condensed with approximately 20 moles of ethylene oxide.
Is used as an emulsifier with a wide range of hydrophilic characteristics.
It is used individually, or in combination with a variety of other hydrophobic emulsifiers to cover
a wide range of oil in water, and water in oil emulsion systems. Individually, it is an excellent
solubilizer of essential oils, wetting agent, industrial surfactant, viscosity modifier, antistat,
stabilizer and dispersing agent. It is used to prepare a wide variety of products in the food,
cosmetic, drug, textile and metalworking industries.
SYNONYMS:
ARMOTAN PMO-20 * ATLOX 1087 * ATLOX 8916TF * CAPMUL POE-O * CRILL 10 *
CRILL 11 * CRILLET 4 * CRILL S 10 * DREWMULSE POE-SMO * DURFAX 80 *
EMSORB 6900 * ETHOXYLATED SORBITAN MONOOLEATE * GLYCOL *
GLYCOSPERSE 0-20 * GLYCOSPERSE O-20 VEG * GLYCOSPERSE O-20X *
HODAG SVO 9 *LIPOSORB O-20 * MO 55F * MONITAN * MONTANOX 80 * NCIC60286
* NIKKOL TO * NIKKOL TO 10 * OLOTHORB * POLYETHYLENE OXIDE
SORBITAN MONO-OLEATE * POLYOXYETHYLENE SORBITAN MONOOLEATE *
POLYOXYETHYLENE (20) SORBITAN MONO-OLEATE * POLYOXYETHYLENE
SORBITAN OLEATE * POLYSORBAN 80 * POLYSORBATE 80 * POLYSORBATE 81
* POLYSORBATE 80 B.P.C. * POLYSORBATE 80, U.S.P. * PROTASORB O-20 *
ROMULGIN O * SORBIMACROGOL OLEATE * SORBIMACROGOL OLEATE 300 *
SORBITAL 0 20 * SORBITAN MONO-9- OCTADECENOATE POLY(OXY-
1,2-ETHANEDIYL) DERIVATIVES * SORBON T 80 * SORETHYTAN (20)
MONOOLEATE * SORLATE
Appearance: Amber liquid (@ 25°C)
BOILING POINT: >350°F
MELTING POINT: -12°C
SOLUBILITY@ 20 deg.C: Soluble in water, Insoluble in Fat
SPECIFIC GRAVITY: 1.06 - 1.09 @ 25°C/25°C (77°F)
Biodegradability:
35% in 28 days. This product is biodegradable in water and is substantially eliminated in
biological treatments. It is considered to be of low toxicity for aquatic life.
Incompatabilities:
BASES, strong acids, HEAVY METAL SALTS, STRONG OXIDIZING AGENTS (chlorine, fluorine etc...)
Decomposition products: Thermal decomposition or burning may produce carbon mono/dioxides
(Hive Bee)
02-03-04 21:28
No 486282
First of all let me say I luuurve your username dude. Anyhow, thanx for the info.
This should help many bees, including meself.
Keep up the good research.
P.S. Could the Orange2 gakk be a souped up polysorbate 80, or is it more likely something like povidines evil brother.
Does anybee know exactly what this gakk monster is?
absorb what is useful, reject what is useless
(Newbee)
02-03-04 21:40
No 486289
In Iso's opinion Orange GAk II is evil because of the PS 80
Povidone and PEG were both easilly handled by TCE alone.
When the PS 80 hit the inactive list is when Iso first hear about OG II( aka RootBeer Gak ) in the forums.
(Hive Addict)
02-04-04 13:26
No 486391
Polysorbate has AWEwayz been part of the picture.
It would be way too simple to clasify OIIgaak as being a TWEEN80 or 60 relative.
While OIIaak may have characteristics of the sorbate family, don't be fooled into thinking it can be handled as easilyor in the same way one would eliminate polysorbate.
Yes it's tempting and yes it's similar in it's anticrystalling nature. And yes it's amber colored.
Ibee's been down that path months ago and went beyond. All the way back to the drawing board where this OII is concerned
It's pure identity still eludes the kidz corner.
The simplest way to deal with OII is to not let it go through rxn.
This isn't intended to discourage...it's merely an infotainment advisary to not stop short on the first likely substance that fits the bill.
This OII gaak is a hybrid polymer...multi-functional in nature.
It's oilbase nature defies the laws we commonly apply to most chems because it's water and hydrocarbon solvent soluable.
Geez helped Ibee understand some key solubility issues surrounding OIIgaak deactivation with reports of toluene and xylene bringing about a property change.
Much like JD does.
More testing will commence soon on other solvents capable of carrying away deactivated OII gaak.
In the meantime...Tone seems to work wonders...but only after OIIgaak is deactivated.
a little less conversation, a little more reaction
(Hive Bee)
02-04-04 14:50
No 486415
Thanx for clarifying, Wareami.
Geez helped Ibee understand some key solubility issues surrounding OIIgaak deactivation with reports of toluene and xylene bringing about a property change.
Much like JD does
I don't understand what Ware means by property change. And if tolly and xylol bring about a property change like JD, could they be used in conjunction w/ another solvent to break this long chain molecule that is fucking with everybody.
This bee also understands there is no defense against orange2 post rxn, but NP washes(many) have helped this bee retain some tainted but edible goods.
Keep us updated Ware!!!
absorb what is useful, reject what is useless
(Hive Addict)
02-04-04 16:54
No 486454
carry's with it some pretty vast conotations....
It's through reading literature that is riddled with such phrases that much light gets shed on what bees are actually dealing with. But there is still levels that remain obscure to AWE but those "skilled in the art".
If I were to include what area of multi-functionality I think is being employed with OIIgaak, those "Skilled in the Art" of Giant Butterflynet weilding would be bangin down my door!
And I'm not really hip on raising the panicbar in the minds of others so I keep my mouth shut until more conclusivity rears it's ugly head!
There are only two stages that affect OIIgaak removal. It can't be done in one fell swoop that I'm aware of.
Deactivate!
Remove!
So combo solvents are useless as a cure all onestepwise.
So glucifer, the answer is no the longchain cannot be broken making the OIIgaak ineffective, thereby leaving it in the mix and proceding as normal.
The Tolly boils seem to make it readily receivable in other solvents that pfed is not soluble in.
Tainted goodz can be eaten...or slammed(not recommended)....but they don't smoke too well.
Well they do smoke well...too well!
The OIIgaak aim is too taint the goodz making them unanttractive and unsellable. That's effective and apparent!
Heat affects OIIgaak!
Geez hinted recently somewhere about a/b separation of OII in certain solvents.
Ibee's curious if any temp changes were involved with the basified solution???
It won't freeze out!
It's obvious that time effects it's deactivation in certain mediums such as alkyline but not above 13pH.
The pH starts to neutralize over time and this seems to effect a deactivation whereas it releases the amine.
But if the amine is contaminated in anyway the OII spreads tainting a large amount of goodz.
Ibee smacked a gram of tainted pfed that was thought to be pure OIIgaak into revealing a 16th of a gram of OIIgaak, recovering the other 15/16th of a gram to successfully Run through rxn. This stuff is so miniscule it's amazing how much it fucks up.
The stuff is sneaky and mysterious.
Two things....Deactivate it. Then remove it!
One interesting sidenote on the waiting it out over three daze business when it's present after rxn.
Kerplunking with heat reactivates it!
Salt might keep it at bay some...but avoid heating cause it travels UP into the NP at that point.
At least these were the observations of UP-AWE-NITE crew.
So it was concluded that:
keep the pH under 13 and don't heat afer the waiting period!
More will be revealed that is certain...
Until then we keep scratchin our heads with our knows to the grindstone!
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