lilbumper (Stranger)
02-22-04 06:17
No 490331
       Need help fast...     

Here's the dream: SWIL is doing a p/p reaction, using Methheads method.  Everythings going fine. after about an hour cook time, the reaction starts to get pretty damn mean.  Well, when the push/pull really gets going and the contents start to grow...pvc connector (connected to the stopper/hose) melts and comes completely off. The contents were looking really good in there, but there wasn't any smoke yet.  When the connector melted, lots of steam came out (quickly covered with towel.) Can this reaction be saved? What should SWIL do?  frown 		 
 
 
 
    CharlieBigpotato
(goat)
02-22-04 08:45
No 490340
       more details?     

what do you mean by "the rxn starts to get pretty damn mean"?

or,'the contents were looking really good in there, but there wasn't any smoke"
and

'....lots of steam came out..'

was it really steam? as in gaseous water?
or was it a cloud of HI that tried to kill you as it escaped from the very place you had hoped it would stay?

i'd toss in some water and a pinch of I2, strap on a condensor, or at least a stout ballon with a fan blowing on it, and cook it for a day at around the boiling point of water.

or 2 days, if its over 5 grams
sorry, wareami!
couldn't resist. 		 
 
 
 
    wareami
(Hive Addict)
02-22-04 16:47
No 490381
       Weigh to GO....     

Weigh to GO CBP....
If it's a gram cook it two days....if it's 100 grams cook it two days!wink
Are you getting it now biz?
Lilbumper....everything is progressing nicely!
What was the temp it started at?
Ibee would lower the heat as CBP suggested to 120°C and let reflux for at least 12hrs.
If the volume doubled already in the flask than conversion may have already started or the heat was Cranked UP way high. The violence and blowing off the condensor tell Ibee that the heat was high!
The method described suggests that a mindset was already set at shorter cook time.
Ibee won't try to shift that mindset too much and suggest how to arrive at comparable product to that sought after but slightly better than if one were to pull it at the suggested mark.
Since it's not known how much dh2o was added to begin with or the size rxn, add .25ml dh2o(¼-ml) per every gram started with minus the amount dh2o added in the beginning, just put the condensor back on.
Cook at 120°C for 12 hours
That simple!
Cooking longer than 12 won't hurt and since conversion started already, this added cook time is just to cook of any intermediates created!
a little less conversation, a little more reaction