<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=522354&page=4&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">URGENT PAA question??</a> (Rated as: UTFSE!) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522354&Number=522354&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522439"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> lugh (Moderator) 07-29-04 13:20 No 522439 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> Re: ok guys im going on the benzyl chloride... </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522439&Number=522439&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <blockquote title="Quoted text"><hr>ok guys im going on the benzyl chloride synth for PAA and it says u need to use sodium dried ether... i wanted to know can u Substitute acetone instead or is acetone useful??<hr></blockquote> Acetone is a ketone, and thus contains a carbonyl group <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"> It's obvious from your post that you're totally unfamiliar with the Grignard reaction, before attempting this you need to study a lot more organic chemistry; and read until you comprehend all the posts here applicable to your question <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="Wink" heigth="15" width="15"> <img src="../picproxie_docs/000522354-utfse.gif" target="_blank"> <hr>Chemistry is our Covalent Bond </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522652"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> benzoateFan (Stranger) 07-30-04 08:02 No 522652 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> dont want to be rude here but it seems that u... (Rated as: whining) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522652&Number=522652&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> dont want to be rude here but it seems that u guys make this big fuss over people asking simple questions like the one i asked, it shouldnt be ur place to say read this or read that, its a forum people usually post questions and they usually have them answered. Now if mine is so simple and so easy why is it that i never get a straght out answer or it always takes 4+ replies to finally explain "look i just wanted to know that" i mean if u guys know it then just say it, my question was simple.... Geeez.. stop making things complicated, noone has yet to tell me how to properly make PAA, and dont give me this UTFSE crap, it seems as if noone really know to be honest<img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522673"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> Rhodium (Chief Bee) 07-30-04 10:17 No 522673 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> carbonation of grignard reagents </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522673&Number=522673&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> Here is the proper procedure: <a href="../rhodium /phenylacetic.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">Synthesis of Phenylacetic Acid</a> (../rhodium /phenylacetic.html) A more detailed procedure for the reaction between grignard reagents and CO2 can be found on page 358 in <a href="../rhodium /vogel3.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">Vogel's Practical Organic Chemistry</a> (../rhodium /vogel3.html) Before you begin, read and understand the precautions in <a href="../newbee/000520704.html#Post520704">Post 520704</a> (lutesium: "Grignard Rxn - Important points", Newbee Forum) <hr>The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522693"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="1"> ApprenticeCook 07-30-04 14:43 </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=522693&page=4&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">Just as easy to say........</a> (Rated as: redundant) </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522693&Number=522693&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522821"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> lugh (Moderator) 07-31-04 03:59 No 522821 </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> Using the Search Engine Isn't a Waste of Time !!! </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522821&Number=522821&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <blockquote title="Quoted text"><hr>dont want to be rude here but it seems that u guys make this big fuss over people asking simple questions like the one i asked, it shouldnt be ur place to say read this or read that, its a forum people usually post questions and they usually have them answered. Now if mine is so simple and so easy why is it that i never get a straght out answer or it always takes 4+ replies to finally explain "look i just wanted to know that" i mean if u guys know it then just say it, my question was simple.... Geeez.. stop making things complicated, noone has yet to tell me how to properly make PAA, and dont give me this UTFSE crap, it seems as if noone really know to be honest<hr></blockquote> Obviously, you didn't read the Rules when your registered, or the FAQ; you need to remedy your ignorance <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="Smile" heigth="15" width="15"> Sorry to say, you're not in a postion to set the rules of the Hive <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/cool.gif" alt="cool" title="Cool" heigth="15" width="15"> If you would have used the search engine, which you seem to think is too much trouble, you could have found these threads on the subject: <a href="../newbee/000476072.html#Post476132">Post 476132</a> (lugh: "Preparations", Newbee Forum) <a href="../DUMMY">Post 174958</a> (lugh: "Re: Grignard Startup", Methods Discourse) <a href="../DUMMY">Post 174921</a> (lugh: "Re: Grignard Startup", Methods Discourse) <a href="../DUMMY">Post 174765</a> (lugh: "Re: Grignard Startup", Methods Discourse) <a href="../DUMMY">Post 321872</a> (lugh: "Phenylacetic acid", Chemistry Discourse) <a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000481264.html#Post481314">Post 481314</a> (lugh: "Grignard Tips and Procedures", Chemistry Discourse) <a href="../crystal/000484732.html#Post484748">Post 484748</a> (lugh: "Limitations of the Grignard Reaction", Stimulants) <a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000518381.html#Post518461">Post 518461</a> (lugh: "Important Details are Lacking", Chemistry Discourse) <a href="../acquisition/000449495.html#Post450018">Post 450018</a> (lugh: "Purity", Chemicals & Equipment) <a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000322732.html#Post323023">Post 323023</a> (lugh: "Carboxylic Acids", Chemistry Discourse) <a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000246963.html#Post247093">Post 247093</a> (lugh: "Re: Drying Ether With NaOH", Chemistry Discourse) There are scores of other posts that could bee helpful to you, but until you learn to use the search engine, you will bee unable to find them so you can read them <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"> The Hive isn't a question posting forum, it's a forum for the sharing of ideas <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="Wink" heigth="15" width="15"> I see no reason to keep posting the same information over and over to please lazy newbees, so as long as you continue to post the kind of questions you have been, you will continue to get bad karma, if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="Laugh" heigth="15" width="15"> <hr>Chemistry is our Covalent Bond </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> </body> </html>

URGENT PAA question?? , Hive Stimulants


		benzoateFan 07-29-04 04:09				<a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=522354&page=4&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">URGENT PAA question??</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: UTFSE!)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522354&Number=522354&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522439"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#ff0000">lugh</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Moderator</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">07-29-04 13:20</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [522439]">No 522439</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Re: ok guys im going on the benzyl chloride...</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522439&Number=522439&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> <blockquote title="Quoted text"><hr><p>ok guys im going on the benzyl chloride synth for PAA and it says u need to use sodium dried ether... i wanted to know can u Substitute acetone instead or is acetone useful??<p><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Acetone is a ketone, and thus contains a carbonyl group <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"> It's obvious from your post that you're totally unfamiliar with the Grignard reaction, before attempting this you need to study a lot more organic chemistry; and read until you comprehend all the posts here applicable to your question <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="Wink" heigth="15" width="15"><br><br><br><br><br><img src="../picproxie_docs/000522354-utfse.gif" target="_blank"> <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>Chemistry is our Covalent Bond</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522652"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> benzoateFan<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">07-30-04 08:02</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [522652]">No 522652</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">dont want to be rude here but it seems that u...</b><br> <i title="This post has been neutrally rated by the moderators">(Rated as: whining)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522652&Number=522652&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> dont want to be rude here but it seems that u guys make this big fuss over people asking simple questions like the one i asked, it shouldnt be ur place to say read this or read that, its a forum people usually post questions and they usually have them answered.<br>Now if mine is so simple and so easy why is it that i never get a straght out answer or it always takes 4+ replies to finally explain "look i just wanted to know that" i mean if u guys know it then just say it, my question was simple....<br>Geeez.. stop making things complicated, noone has yet to tell me how to properly make PAA, and dont give me this UTFSE crap, it seems as if noone really know to be honest<img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522673"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#FF0033">Rhodium</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Chief Bee</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">07-30-04 10:17</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [522673]">No 522673</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">carbonation of grignard reagents</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522673&Number=522673&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> Here is the proper procedure: <a href="../rhodium /phenylacetic.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">Synthesis of Phenylacetic Acid</a> (../rhodium /phenyl<wbr>acetic.h<wbr>tml)<br><br>A more detailed procedure for the reaction between grignard reagents and CO2 can be found on page 358 in <a href="../rhodium /vogel3.html" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">Vogel's Practical Organic Chemistry</a> (../rhodium /vogel3<wbr>.html)<br><br>Before you begin, read and <i>understand</i> the precautions in <span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../newbee/000520704.html#Post520704">Post 520704</a> <i>(lutesium: "Grignard Rxn - Important points", Newbee Forum)</i></span> <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><sup>The Hive - Clandestine Chemists Without Borders</sup></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post522693"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="1"> ApprenticeCook<br> <span title="Posting date">07-30-04 14:43</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="1"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=522693&page=4&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">Just as easy to say........</a> </b><br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: redundant)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a 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valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> <font color="#ff0000">lugh</font><br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Moderator</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">07-31-04 03:59</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [522821]">No 522821</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">Using the Search Engine Isn't a Waste of Time !!!</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top"> <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=522821&Number=522821&page=4&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> <blockquote title="Quoted text"><hr><p>dont want to be rude here but it seems that u guys make this big fuss over people asking simple questions like the one i asked, it shouldnt be ur place to say read this or read that, its a forum people usually post questions and they usually have them answered.<br>Now if mine is so simple and so easy why is it that i never get a straght out answer or it always takes 4+ replies to finally explain "look i just wanted to know that" i mean if u guys know it then just say it, my question was simple....<br>Geeez.. stop making things complicated, noone has yet to tell me how to properly make PAA, and dont give me this UTFSE crap, it seems as if noone really know to be honest<p><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Obviously, you didn't read the Rules when your registered, or the FAQ; you need to remedy your ignorance <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="Smile" heigth="15" width="15"> Sorry to say, you're not in a postion to set the rules of the Hive <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/cool.gif" alt="cool" title="Cool" heigth="15" width="15"> If you would have used the search engine, which you seem to think is too much trouble, you could have found these threads on the subject:<br><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../newbee/000476072.html#Post476132">Post 476132</a> <i>(lugh: "Preparations", Newbee Forum)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 174958</a> <i>(lugh: "Re: Grignard Startup", Methods Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 174921</a> <i>(lugh: "Re: Grignard Startup", Methods Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 174765</a> <i>(lugh: "Re: Grignard Startup", Methods Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../DUMMY">Post 321872</a> <i>(lugh: "Phenylacetic acid", Chemistry Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000481264.html#Post481314">Post 481314</a> <i>(lugh: "Grignard Tips and Procedures", Chemistry Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../crystal/000484732.html#Post484748">Post 484748</a> <i>(lugh: "Limitations of the Grignard Reaction", Stimulants)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000518381.html#Post518461">Post 518461</a> <i>(lugh: "Important Details are Lacking", Chemistry Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../acquisition/000449495.html#Post450018">Post 450018</a> <i>(lugh: "Purity", Chemicals & Equipment)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000322732.html#Post323023">Post 323023</a> <i>(lugh: "Carboxylic Acids", Chemistry Discourse)</i></span><br><span title="Jump to this post"><a href="../chemistrydiscourse/000246963.html#Post247093">Post 247093</a> <i>(lugh: "Re: Drying Ether With NaOH", Chemistry Discourse)</i></span><br><br>There are scores of other posts that could bee helpful to you, but until you learn to use the search engine, you will bee unable to find them so you can read them <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="Tongue" heigth="15" width="15"> The Hive isn't a question posting forum, it's a forum for the sharing of ideas <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="Wink" heigth="15" width="15"> I see no reason to keep posting the same information over and over to please lazy newbees, so as long as you continue to post the kind of questions you have been, you will continue to get bad karma, if you don't like it, don't let the door hit you in the ass <img src="../forum/images/icons_lightgrey/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="Laugh" heigth="15" width="15"> <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>Chemistry is our Covalent Bond</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img 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