08-25-04 14:32
No 527327
SWIM wanted to know what the difference was between the two following chems: Anyhydrous Caffeine & HCL Caffeine??
thanks!
(Hive Addict)
08-25-04 14:56
No 527331
Anhydrous meaning removed of water,so anhydrous caffeine is dehydrated caffeine, as for the caffeine Hcl it's just the 1,3,7 trimethylaxanthine HCl salt version of caffeine......read the info about caffeine.....java
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Anyhydrous Caffeine & HCL Caffeine??
Caffeine anhydrous
Chemical Name:
1,3,7-Trimethylxanthine
CAS No:
[58-08-2]
Quality Standard:
Caffeine meets the requirements of the latest editions of the following pharmacopoeias: Ph. Eur., USP and JP
Applications:
Beverages, Pharmaceuticals, Chemicals, Cosmetics
Caffeine Chemistry
by Erowid
NAME :
Caffeine
CHEMICAL NAME :
3,7-Dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,
ALTERNATE CHEMICAL NAMES :
1,3,7-trimethylxanthine; 1,3,7-trimethyl-2,6-dioxopurine; coffeine
ALTERNATE CHEMICAL NAMES :
thein; guaranine; methyltheobromine; No-Doz
CHEMICAL FORMULA
C8H10N4O2
MOLECULAR WEIGHT
194.19
LD50 Dog
140mg/kg oral
LD50 Rat
105mg/kg IV
LD Low (Lethal Dose)
Human deaths reported at less than 4 grams oral.
From the Merck Index 12th Edition
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(Newbee)
08-25-04 14:57
No 527332
Hi: Im not trying to be a smart ass or sarcastic. I am very curious, what are you going to do with the caffeine? I am genuinely curious.
Rasputin
(Hive Addict)
08-26-04 02:28
No 527458
I refused to partake in amphetamines in my high school daze but I do recall snorting powdered NoDoz to study on.
I wonder if there is an easy way to synthesize caffeine in industrial quantities or if caffeine in pill form is extracted from plant sources.
Without the existence of idiots geniuses would simply vaporize into thin air
(Hive Addict)
08-26-04 12:16
No 527539
I've understood that caffeine is a byproduct from production of decaffeinated coffee by extraction of the caffeine with supercritical CO2.
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(Stranger)
08-26-04 18:01
No 527632
Is the anhydrous form, active when smoked? I have read conflicting reports on different forums. Some say it is nothing more then a placebo when smoked. Then again, I have also heard that it may enhance or potentiate the effects of other stimulants when taken orally or insuffulated. What's the truth?
Its obvious that someone is trying to promote the compound?
If your tired of getting pissed on, you better get yourself our system
(Hive Addict)
08-26-04 18:31
No 527637
I can just sense it coming now...
"hell, why not just dissolve some, break out a clean spike and mainline it?"
Without the existence of idiots geniuses would simply vaporize into thin air
(Hive Addict)
08-26-04 18:48
No 527644
(Rated as: good read)
I'm sure the coffee companies among others are doing their best to promote their products.
Caffeine probably works when vaporized, but what's the point?See Post 443444 (WizardX: "caffeine", Stimulants). The monohydrate dehydrates to anhydrous at 80°, which starts to sublime at 178° becoming vapour. So it doesn't matter which one is being "smoked", the result is still the same. And check out what happens to the HCl dihydrate form. Might be that the anhydrous HCl isn't stable.
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(Hive Addict)
08-26-04 21:16
No 527539
I've understood that caffeine is a byproduct from production of decaffeinated coffee by extraction of the caffeine with supercritical CO2.
fear fear hate hate
(Stranger)
08-27-04 03:01
No 527632
Is the anhydrous form, active when smoked? I have read conflicting reports on different forums. Some say it is nothing more then a placebo when smoked. Then again, I have also heard that it may enhance or potentiate the effects of other stimulants when taken orally or insuffulated. What's the truth?
Its obvious that someone is trying to promote the compound?
If your tired of getting pissed on, you better get yourself our system
(Hive Addict)
08-27-04 03:31
No 527637
I can just sense it coming now...
"hell, why not just dissolve some, break out a clean spike and mainline it?"
Without the existence of idiots geniuses would simply vaporize into thin air
(Hive Addict)
08-27-04 03:48
No 527644
(Rated as: good read)
I'm sure the coffee companies among others are doing their best to promote their products.
Caffeine probably works when vaporized, but what's the point?See Post 443444 (WizardX: "caffeine", Stimulants). The monohydrate dehydrates to anhydrous at 80°, which starts to sublime at 178° becoming vapour. So it doesn't matter which one is being "smoked", the result is still the same. And check out what happens to the HCl dihydrate form. Might be that the anhydrous HCl isn't stable.
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