guyincognito
(Stranger) 07-18-01 14:16 No 191578 |
Recovering MD-P2P Question | Bookmark | ||||||
Swim runs a 600 gram md-p2p sodium cyano run and recovers some md in dcm. when swim tries to recover by distilling off the dcm them distilling over the md-p2p - it comes over at like 4 different boiling points then turn before even 3/4 way done it turn black and smokes - all done under good aspirator vacuum (same one I use to successfully distill md the first time to use) Is the md bad? Is it not md-p2p anymore? Is there some way swim could have screwed up and made some % md in the performic reaction and the other % is some kind of md -like substance? Does the md need to be washed with water or something before recovering? |
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guyincognito (Newbee) 07-20-01 13:04 No 192209 |
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when swim pulls over the md the first time - it comes over under vac at up to 240 and still gets product in later step - when doing the recovery - something comes over at 100 - then like 140 - then it goes up - starts smoking and turn black - maybe even in the few days before it degraded into other things that hate heat? |
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LaBTop (Daddy) 07-20-01 14:27 No 192238 |
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That's way too high, 240 C. A good aspirator reaches easily 12 mbar with cold water feed. You have a leaking destillation setup or your aspirator is damaged by strong acids or alkalics. Test your whole setup first with water, and report back what temp in C the water boiled at full vacuum. Is the tap water pressure for the aspirator high enough, is it cold enough(15 C or less?) MDP2P with a good functioning aspirator will fully boil at 165 C. It starts slowly boiling at 155 C. I would not attempt to recover MDP2P with the means you have in your posession, without TLC or a gaschromatograph it's pretty useless after all the messy byproducts you created. LT/ WISDOMwillWIN |
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guyincognito (Newbee) 07-22-01 18:51 No 198201 |
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swim thought it was way too high, but the aspirator seems to be fine - may be hose is wrecked - will do water boil test to see what it pulls. Swim is going to build vacuum station using water pump to get better flow rate - even though local pressure is pretty good. swim used to pull over md at 190-200 with exact same setup - maybe it has been damaged as you say. |
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