ZZACk (Newbee)
11-27-01 16:39
No 241254
      hydroxalamine in nabh3cn?  Bookmark   

if one were to  use a dry meoh/ ketone solution and use hydroxylamine instead os annac or methylamine in a slightly acidic solution.before adding nabh3cn.
would one make mdoh or would they have to form the oxime then rereduce it?
hypothetically speaking of course.
Z

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-27-01 18:05
No 241279
      Re: hydroxalamine in nabh3cn?  Bookmark   

That would produce MDOH, see http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal114.shtml

If MDOH is heated too much (as in distillation for example), it disproportionates into MDA and MDP2P oxime.
 
 
 
 
    ZZACk
(Newbee)
11-28-01 10:57
No 241567
      Re: hydroxalamine in nabh3cn?  Bookmark   

thanks rhod,
would one go about extracting the unreduced ketone, and removing the mdoh in dcm and then gassing or would another solvednt bee better? also how would one remove the meoh without convertingf the mhoh to oxime and mda i would guess with a vaccum distillation.
Z

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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
11-28-01 12:30
No 241579
      Re: hydroxalamine in nabh3cn?  Bookmark   

Follow the exact procedure in Pihkal and you'll be fine. There is very little unreduced ketone in there, mostly the ketone reduced to the alcohol.