pickler (Greenhorn)
05-01-02 06:54
No 303653
      oxone method  Bookmark   

Swim loves the oxone method(thanks Chromic) and has always wondered why meoh is added to the oxone, water, and isosafrole mix. Swim looked over at Rhodium's and UTFSE and came up with nothing. Could this be performed without the meoh or does the meoh have something to do with the reaction?

We'll soon find out if I'm a chemist or not!
 
 
 
 
    PoohBearium
(Bear With Me)
05-01-02 07:30
No 303670
      I think...  Bookmark   

...it is to help with dissolving the oxone, though it may be excluded with the proper adjustments made.

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    Vibrating_Lights
(Hive Addict)
05-01-02 11:06
No 303721
      oxone.  Bookmark   

The MeOh is definatly nescesary. Mabyee think of trying to do it with DCM instead of MeOH.
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    Chromic
(Hive Addict)
05-01-02 16:03
No 303779
      not sure  Bookmark   

Methanol is not added to get the oxone to dissolve.

It should be possible without using methanol, but I didn't have much luck with just water/oxone/alkene (what works on paper doesn't always work in the flask).
 
 
 
 
    PoohBearium
(Bear With Me)
05-01-02 21:01
No 303876
      Well Then  Bookmark   

What is the main function of MeOH in this reaction?  I wasn't sure about the exclusion of such in theory, only regurgitating what I once read...

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    cheeseboy
(I'm not Cheesie)
05-01-02 23:06
No 303915
      DCM?WTF?  Bookmark   

Doesn't the MeOH bring out some filterable salt? Also probably helps the Isosafrole react with the dH2O as methanol is halfway polar , halfway non-polar. But using DCM? DCM is non-polar and would serve what purpose? Cheese is no chemist and is only making an educated guess. Yes the OXONE route is wonderful Pickler.Yes it is!

Quote: "The methanol helps in forming the slurry" Whatever that means.

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