does anyone have personal experience with........ , Hive Methods Discourse
 
    daxium 11-06-02 18:09
      <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/showflat.pl?Number=377202&page=22&view=&sb=&Search=&vc=&new=&start=0&xrated=y&&URLForums=" title="Click here to show this downrated post">does anyone have personal experience with........</a> <br> <i title="This post has been downrated by the moderators">(Rated as: crossposted)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">  <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=377202&Number=377202&page=22&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a>  </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post402016"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> wirringun<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">01-27-03 17:27</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [402016]">No 402016</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">sodium hydoxide vs potassium hydroxide</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">  <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=402016&Number=402016&page=22&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a>  </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> <br><br>just like i said in your other posting <br> follow specs EXCATLY<br>This means use SODIUM HYDROXIDE if you followed specs exactly you would have no trouble<br>as i think potassium hydoxide destroys phenolic material<br>anyway follow the specs cause this is true and tried method of producing morphine from codiene<br>cheers hope you have more luck<br>wirringun </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post434182"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> lordmighty<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">05-19-03 14:03</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [434182]">No 434182</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">i recommend NaOH</b> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">  <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=434182&Number=434182&page=22&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a>  </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> just use sodium hydroxide...it's better <br> <span title="The signature"><hr><a href="<a href="http://lordmighty.cjb.net/cm-sy2.html"%3B>%3BLord" target="_blank" title="Jump to this external site">http://lordmighty.cjb.net/cm-sy2.html&qu<wbr>ot%3B><wbr>%3BLord</a> Mighty's Meth Recipe</a></span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/right_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="page_bg"> <td colspan="9"> </td> </tr> <td align="left" valign="top" class="text_bg"> <img src="../forum/images/left_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td colspan="7"><a name="Post434522"></a><a name="last"></a></a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><img src="../forum/images/right_top.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td valign="top" align="center" rowspan="2"> algebra<br> <i>(<span title="The user's title at the time of posting">Stranger</span>)</i><br> <span title="Posting date">05-21-03 03:05</span><br> <span title="Link to this post by using the markup [434522]">No 434522</span><br> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td rowspan="2" width="1" class="vert_ruler"> <img src="../forum/images/hr.gif" border="0" width="1" height="1"> </td> <td rowspan="2">  </td> <td class="text_bg" align="left" valign="top"> <b title="The subject of this post">homebake</b><br> <i title="This post has been up-rated by the moderators">(Rated as: good idea!)</i> </td> <td class="text_bg" align="right" valign="top">  <a href="https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/favorites.pl?Cat=&option=add&number=434522&Number=434522&page=22&view=&sb=&part=&vc=&new=&backto=showflat" title="Add this post to your bookmark list in your Private Area">Bookmark</a>  </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td colspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> <br> *Either ammonia or naOH should work OK to get the morph to precipiatate when adjusting the ph.<br>*BUT - only the naoh (more common Ca(OH)2) and not ammonia will work to form the SOLUBLE phenolate salt. ie when doing the reaction flooding you need naoh or ca(oh)2 not ammonia(aq).  <br>* you may well get morph in the precipitate at ph8.5 (your original post)and not only at ph9 - if you filter at 8.5 then check the filtrate for this might be the goodies. <br><br>*a suggestion - instead of using the phenolate soluble form try extracting using an acid.  <br>*this is crude and simple - dont boot it - but it should tell you whether you are getting any morph out of the reaction. <br>*try it with a small ammount of the left over reaction material first - so you dont waste stuff.  <br>*simple extraction - flood reaction with aqueous hcl, filter out any solid residue (coffee filter papers), and then raise ph to 9 with ammonia. forget trying to extract with np (chloroform). just leave it to cool overnight and see if the morph precipitates out at ph9 (monitor the ph). if this works you should have a fair idea that you have the goodies - and can then work on refining the purification - ie into np, recrystalisation etc, reclaiming unreacted codeine. <br> <span title="The signature"><hr>my only weakness is a list of crimes</span> </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr class="text_bg"> <td align="left" valign="bottom"><img src="../forum/images/left_bottom.gif" border="0" height="12" width="9"></td> <td valign="middle" align="center" colspan="7"> </td> <td align="right" 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