LiquidGaia (Stranger)
01-09-03 09:34
No 396705
      Bromovanillin  Bookmark   

SWIM was thinking of making bromovanillin using oxone and NaBr.  Under one of chromic's threads oxone is used to make Br2. SWIM's wondering if this could be done in one pot.

ie.

vanillin and oxone, and NaBr are placed in a Methanol solution.  Would SWIM be able to get bromovanillin?

also what would the bp of bromovanillin, hydroxyvanillin and 3,4,5-tmba be?
(SWIM's planning on distillation after each rxn step.)

thx.


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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
01-09-03 09:58
No 396709
      Physical properties of vanillin derivatives  Bookmark   

5-Bromovanillin, mp 164°C (No bp listed in beilstein)

5-Hydroxyvanillin, mp 132°C (No bp listed in beilstein)

3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzaldehyde, mp 77°C

3,4,5-Trimethoxybenzaldehyde, bp 163-165°C/10mmHg, 158-161°C/7-8mmHg, 148-151°C/5mmHg, 136-138°C/4mmHg, 130°C/0.5mmHg
 
 
 
 
    LiquidGaia
(Stranger)
01-09-03 11:17
No 396723
      how would one go about seperating the ...  Bookmark   

how would one go about seperating the bromovanillin from the rest of products that will form from the reaction?




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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
01-09-03 15:35
No 396776
      Step 1: Read everything pertinent at my page  Bookmark   

Have you even read this: ../rhodium /mmda.mescaline.html
 
 
 
 
    LiquidGaia
(Stranger)
01-09-03 16:40
No 396794
      yeah I have, although I'm not sure if I want...  Bookmark   

yeah I have, although I'm not sure if I want to work with Br2 in gas form.

I was planning on making the gas via NaBr H2SO4 then H2O2 if I could do it in solution and without the need for GAA (expensive) I'd prefer that route.



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    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
01-09-03 18:10
No 396821
      intermediates  Bookmark   

Br2 is not a gas, and what I was referring to was that the document contains explicit directions for purification if all the intermediates. You will also find a whole bunch of posts on this issue using the search engine.
 
 
 
 
    LiquidGaia
(Stranger)
01-09-03 20:29
No 396852
      wow, I truely need to do a lot more studying...  Bookmark   

wow, I truely need to do a lot more studying before I attemp the synth, everything is theory right now (I'm not a chemist, currently a student).  but thanks, I'll look into the purification, I actually have it saved.

Thank for the help Rhodium.

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    Aurelius
(Hive Addict)
01-10-03 07:12
No 396945
      PM  Bookmark   

Hey LiquidGaia, if you have specific questions to ask, you can feel free to ask aurelius in a pm.