kreiselmeier (Stranger)
06-02-03 12:25
No 437184
      making mol solution  Bookmark   

Hi, am I right, if I want to make  1 mol H2SO4, I add 98 (1Mol) gramm of conz. H2SO4 to 1Liter of Dest H2O ?

Sorry but my books where a bit fuzzy abhout this subject
 
 
 
 
    raffike
(Hive Addict)
06-02-03 12:30
No 437186
      No,the amount of water must be around 950 mls...  Bookmark   

No,the amount of water must be around 950 mls or so that the final amount of solution would be 1000 mls.Then it's 1 M H2SO4 solution

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    gabd
(Hive Bee)
06-02-03 16:16
No 437231
      And remember its always  Bookmark   

acid to water. So you add you water first then your sulfuric acid. Dont drop H2O in the sulfuric, do the opposite. As for volume, you would need 1 mol in a total of 1 liter. Sulfuric has a density of around 1.86. So 1 mole is 98g / 1.86 = 52.7ml so that means 947.3 ml of water

This is a 1 molar H2SO4 solution, but remember there is 2 protons so its also a 2N solution.
 
 
 
 
    kreiselmeier
(Stranger)
06-06-03 12:39
No 438210
      ??? there is a diffrence between M=mol and N??  Bookmark   

First of all thank you for the help, but my books do not say anything about N so if i have to prepare a 2,5 N H2SO4 Solution, how do I proceed? I thought from the writings that somtimes the writers replace N for M or it is a typo mistake, please enlighten me...
 
 
 
 
    raffike
(Hive Addict)
06-06-03 12:46
No 438213
      N is normality,M is molarity,i think there is...  Bookmark   

N is normality,M is molarity,i think there is a difference when it comes to acids with anions with more neutrons over than 1 like SO4-2
Not sure though...crazy

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    LaBTop
(Daddy)
06-06-03 15:32
No 438237
      UTFSE!  Bookmark   

normality molarity
put that in the ""and Subject / Body:""  window, you get 23 hits! LT/

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    calcium
(Hive Bee)
06-06-03 16:08
No 438242
      D. I. Y.  Bookmark   

Do your own homework from now on!
 
 
 
 
    kreiselmeier
(Stranger)
06-07-03 13:18
No 438442
      Thanks for the info...  Bookmark   

Thank you for the help,

I just did not know where to look. I know now, even it is a little confusing, since there is no clear opinion.

To prepare a 1 mol solution of say NaOH (1 Mole = 39.9971g)
do I add this (1 Mole = 39.9971g) to 1 liter of water, or do I add 1 Liter of water to 1 Mole = 39.9971g of NaOH???

And How do I prepare 2.5 N H2SO4???  Shulgin wrote 2,5 N not M. so is it 1.25 mol H2SO4 adding to H2O till I have 1 Liter??
This would be 122.59875 Gramm of H2SO4 in a cylinder and I add Water till I have 1 liter??

Thank you...
And thank you Calcium, for the tip, very encouraging, especially for a newbee. Spitball was equally arrogant, look where he is now...

You out there, take care...
 
 
 
 
    gabd
(Hive Bee)
06-07-03 20:29
No 438483
      Explanation of molarity,molality, normality  Bookmark   

Molarity: Number of moles per liter of solvent

To prepare a 1 molar solution of Sulfuric acid(I know its about 98% but lets assume its 100%)

You need 98 grams dissolved in a total of 1 liter.
Density of sulfuric acid: 1.86
98g / 1.86 g/ml = 52.7 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid.
Add that to lets say 500 ml of water, then complete to 1 liter. There you go, 1 molar solution

Molality: Number of moles per kg of solvent(rarely used).
For water, its pretty much the same since the density is 1g/ml. For other solvent like for example DCM, a solution of 1 molar in dcm would have a molality of  1/1.325 = 0.75

Normality: number of equivalents per liter of solvent.

For H2SO4, there is two protons that can react so there is two equivalent that can react per molecule. So a 1 M H2SO4 solution is a 2N solution.

For NaOH, there is one OH group, one equivalent per molecule. So  a 1 M solution is the same as a 1 N solution.

I hope this helps!
 
 
 
 
    kreiselmeier
(Stranger)
06-11-03 14:40
No 439346
      This has helped...  Bookmark   

Thank you!