jsorex (Hive Bee)
09-12-03 01:41
No 458591
      Amine, amide  Bookmark   

What is the difference? I cant understand

-jsx
 
 
 
 
    pHarmacist
(pHantasticant)
09-12-03 01:56
No 458594
      Amide vs. Amine  Bookmark   

R-NH2 = amine

R-(C=O)-NH2 = amide

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    Bandil
(you can always take some more)
09-12-03 02:25
No 458598
      Another important difference is that amine...  Bookmark   

Another important difference is that amine groups have acid/base properties, while amides does not!

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    jsorex
(Hive Bee)
09-12-03 02:27
No 458599
      That I actually knew.  Bookmark   

That I actually knew. Theese structures are hard to remeber, I aleays fotget and confuse them. I can't remeber what an ester is anymore, for fucks sake, i mean the structure again...

-jsx
 
 
 
 
    Aurelius
(Active Asperger Archivist)
09-16-03 08:21
No 459408
      ester  Bookmark   

replace the -NH2 in the AMIDE structure above with a -OH and you have an ester.

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    jsorex
(Hive Bee)
09-17-03 04:01
No 459587
      ?  Bookmark   

That wouldn't be a carboxylic acid?

-jsx
 
 
 
 
    Bandil
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09-17-03 04:13
No 459588
      Esters  Bookmark   

jsorex> Yes, that would be a carboxylic acid.

An ester is an carboxylic acid bound to an alchohol with and condensation reaction(ie. you loose a molecule of water).

Thus an ester looks like the following

R-(C=O)-O-R

Which has been formed via. the following two molecules:

R-(C=O)-OH + HO-R + (H+) -----> R-(C=O)-O-R + H2O + (H+)
This reaction is called a Fischer esterfication, and is acid catalysed.

It is the -OH group from the carboxyl acid, that get's knocked off.

But there are several other ways of forming esters.

Check out: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~fac6q/19_13_17.pdf for more details!

Regards
Bandil

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    jsorex
(Hive Bee)
09-18-03 05:39
No 459755
      Thanks for the link. Can you believe that I...  Bookmark   

Thanks for the link. Can you believe that I passed a 4 ECTS course on organic chemistry with the second best grade and our university is within the top 5 of th EU! Because I can't..

-jsx
 
 
 
 
    Aurelius
(Active Asperger Archivist)
09-18-03 23:35
No 459897
      Sorry  Bookmark   

My bad- wasn't thinking.  I've really got to start getting more sleep.  (we all say this, but do we ever really do anything about it?)blush

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