11-02-03 02:14
No 468275
which non-regulated essential oil has the most safrol in it and has anyone every extracted it and wrote it up for we newbees
ned
I only ask the questions I do because I find this subject interesting
(Newbee)
11-02-03 04:56
No 468289
Hey Ned, have a look at Rhodium's page. First two links there, under MDMA/MDA, are:
Comprehensive Safrole FAQ (../rhodium /safrol
Safrole from Plants (../rhodium /3base/
This probably has a lot of the info you're after, and I'm sure spending some time with TFSE would yeild more (you know, a search something along the lines of 'Safrole NOT Sassafras' may work... I don't guaruntee it, though, so think of your own terms! Use boolean operators!)
Anything in the name of procrastination...
(Hive Bee)
11-02-03 06:46
No 468302
Ned, see now that's the problem. The Man knows that MDMA chemists use safrole as an easy starting material to get to the end product. That's why sassy is a heavily watched oil (because it contains so much safrole). There are other plants that contain appreciable amounts of safrole, but there essential oils are not commercially available... at least a friend of mine has searched far and wide for these oils and came up with nothing. If you know how to do a steam distillation of herbaceous plant matter, it might bee in your own interest to grow some plants. A good genus to look at is Piper (the peppers). The roots, stems, and leaves of this genus contain enough safrole that it's worth looking into. By the way, if anyone has found any of the oils I referred to, but hasn't posted it, please PM me and let me know! I know you're doing it for good reason (you don't want the Man to shut your sources down), and I promise on my soul I won't tell! Why must the Man hold us down??!!!??
D.A.R.E. = Drugs Are Really Exciting
(Chief Bee)
11-02-03 07:37
No 468309
(Rated as: good read)
Brown camphor oil (not white camphor oil) contains high amounts of safrole, but I am not sure about the watchedness of that.
See these ancient threads:
Post 93054 (Kris: "Re: Requesting A Camphor 1070 Discussion", Chemicals & Equipment)
Post 87075 (Entropy: "White/Brown/Crude/1070 Camphor Oil", Chemicals & Equipment)
Post 88682 (dpHarma: "Safrol from Camphor Oil", Chemicals & Equipment)
Post 162031 (Cherrie Baby: "No Safrole in Camphor or Star Anise ???", Chemicals & Equipment)
(Hive Bee)
11-02-03 13:45
No 468381
All oils rich in safrole are now listed chemicals.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/chem_p
SAFROLE AND SASSAFRAS OIL
ARE BEING USED IN THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURE OF MDMA
The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and state/local law enforcement authorities throughout the United States have noted an alarming trend involving illicit MDMA production. MDMA (Ecstasy) is a major drug problem in the United States. All businesses engaged in the sale of safrole and essential oils rich in safrole, such as, sassafras oil, "brown" camphor oil or camphor oil 1.070, also referred to as Chinese sassafras oil, should be aware of the use of these products by clandestine MDMA laboratory operators.
Criminal elements routinely use these List I chemicals in the illicit production of MDMA. DEA is aware that these criminals are searching, often over the Internet, for sources of supply for these List I chemicals.
This notice is being provided to:
Make you aware that safrole and essential oils rich in safrole, such as sassafras oil, and brown camphor oil or camphor oil 1.070, are List I chemicals;
Remind all distributors of these products that they must be registered with DEA, obtain identifying information from their customers, keep records, report suspicious orders to DEA, and "know their customer," to avoid unwittingly becoming a supplier to a clandestine MDMA laboratory;
Advise all distributors of these List I chemicals that it is unlawful for any person to possess or distribute a listed chemical knowing, or having reasonable cause to believe, that the listed chemical will be used to manufacture a controlled substance in violation of the Controlled Substances Act…21 U.S.C. 841(c)(2). Persons who violate 21 U.S.C. 841(c)(2) and/or the recordkeeping and reporting requirements are subject to criminal and/or civil penalties.
(Stranger)
11-03-03 12:01
No 468525
to make sassafras tea with is pretty widely available in bulk from small herbal stores....
Computational Neuroscience.sticky sweet
(Chief Bee)
11-03-03 12:07
No 468526
Even with a 1% essential oil content (dry root), can you estimate the price of safrole using that route?
(Stranger)
11-03-03 12:09
No 468527
i'd look rather sheepish... oh wait...
Computational Neuroscience.
(Newbee)
11-03-03 13:09
No 468539
If safrol becomes difficult to obtain maybe it's time to change to eugenol. I don't think cloves (clove oil contains 98% eugenol) will be banned in the near future.
Check this out
../rhodium /eugenol
As you can see there's still some work to bee done.
To fly or not to fly that's only a matter of time...
11-05-03 12:37
(Rated as: UTFSE!)
(Hive Addict)
11-05-03 12:46
No 468971
what an original question! impossible that anybody had asked it before!
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n'importe quoi
(Greenhorn)
11-05-03 12:57
No 468973
The days of getting sassy oil from an oil dealer are gone. Everything with a decent amount of safrole in it is watched. Stockpiling sassy oil would have been a great idea. Swim is sure some bees have done this.
I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin