budstealth (Stranger)
12-08-03 05:56
No 475341
      quinone from Hydroquinone using hydrogen peroxide     


55 g of hydroquinone, 115 g of isopropyl alcohol as a reaction medium, and 1 g of iodine as a catalyst were charged into a 300 ml four-necked glass reaction vessel with a stirrer, a dropping funnel, and a thermometer. Then stirring was started, and after 58 g of a 35% hydrogen peroxide solution were added over about 3 hours while keeping the temperature at 30-35°C, the temperature was raised to about 45°C, which was kept for about 3 hours to complete the reaction. After the completion of the reaction, the reaction mixture was cooled gradually to about 15°C, and the reaction product was filtered by suction. The reaction product was washed with a small amount of isopropyl alcohol, and dried under reduced pressure to yield 49.5 g of p-benzoquinone. The yield was 91.6% (based on the charged hydroquinone, hereinafter the same being applied), the melting point was 111-112°C, and the purity as measured by HPLC was 99.0%.

The filtered mother liquor containing isopropyl alcohol that had been obtained by filtering the reaction product by suction was distilled under normal pressures or reduced pressure in a usual manner to recover aqueous isopropyl alcohol containing about 12% of water. The recovered isopropyl alcohol can be used again as a reaction medium in the next reaction.




Is iodine really needed?  And if iodine is needed is there a source of iodine that can be bought in a grocery store or similar?  I read Bond_DoubleBond Benzo Bees reaction and think that no iodine is needed if heat is used as the catalyst.  Just IMO... What do you think?

 
 
 
 
    terbium
(Old P2P Cook)
12-08-03 07:05
No 475364
      Iodine     

For OTC iodine look search in the Stimulants Forum, there are procedures described there for obtaining iodine from tincture of iodine, or perhaps you could use the tincture of iodine directly in place of the iodine.

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    budstealth
(Stranger)
12-08-03 08:06
No 475379
      Hmmm     

Saw that post and very interesting... is there a reason people make it OTC instead of just ordering it from a chemical supply?  Its not watched, is it?  But i still need to know if iodine is even needed.
 
 
 
 
    Rhodium
(Chief Bee)
12-08-03 09:06
No 475385
      Iodine is a List II chemical.     

Iodine is a List II chemical.
 
 
 
 
    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-08-03 22:23
No 475489
      Read this     

Post 473279 (Bond_DoubleBond: "Big Breakthrough for Benzo Bees", Methods Discourse)

Swim had all sorts of problems with that synth that you mentioned. Try this one instead, also it calls for much less iodine. Just extract some tincture using h2o2, or check the local pet shops for a pint of 7% i2. Swim tried about 5 shops til he found a store that had 6 pints. Swim took em all one by one with a friend smile

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    Mercury
(Stranger)
12-09-03 03:38
No 475547
      Re: Iodine is a List II chemical.     


Iodine is a List II chemical.




So is Acetone, but it's sold in hardware stores across the US wink.

Iodine can easily be extracted from veterinary Iodine 7% tincture.

 
 
 
 
    budstealth
(Stranger)
12-09-03 08:22
No 475584
      Grumble Grumble     

Still avoiding the question.  Is Iodine needed? I mean if i have a day or two to spare(dont think it would take that long anyways) whats wrong with just not using iodine as a catalyst... I also see that the iodine ends up in the benzo crystals as posted above, his decant was all ipa and no iodine so where did it end up, i suppose in the benzo crystals.
 
 
 
 
    moo
(Hive Bee)
12-09-03 12:47
No 475610
      Still avoiding the question. Is Iodine needed?     

Still avoiding the question.  Is Iodine needed?

I'm convinced that it is, but if you test the reaction without iodine and end up with benzoquinone then it's all good.

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    Ziqquratu
(Newbee)
12-09-03 12:59
No 475611
      It's the oxidant?     

This is my own theory, and may be entirly wrong... I think that, perhaps, the iodine may in fact act as the direct oxidant, oxidizing hydroquinone to benzoquinone and being reduced to I- in the process.  The hydrogen peroxide then reoxidizes the I- to I2 and so the cycle continues...

Please, someone correct me if I've got it wrong.

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    moo
(Hive Bee)
12-09-03 13:19
No 475616
      Exactly.     

Exactly.

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    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-09-03 15:14
No 475633
      his decant was all ipa and no iodine so where...     

his decant was all ipa and no iodine so where did it end up, i suppose in the benzo crystals

The I2 dissolves in the ISA, and thats why the decant is such a dark red. Swim doesnt seem to see any orange or red in the benzo crystals. They are bright yellow. They had some traces of the red isa on em but after washing with regular isa, they quickly turn bright yellow.

Is it really so hard to come up with 1g of i2 for 150g of benzo?

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    moo
(Hive Bee)
12-09-03 16:26
No 475638
      Especially when it can be made from KI with...     

Especially when it can be made from KI or NaI with hydrogen peroxide, UTFSE.

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