homeslice (Hive Bee)
12-22-03 10:21
No 478476
      1st time Ketone Success! i hope...     

Swims vacuum read the highest swim ever got it. It was not even a hair away from 30". Now swims safrole came over at about 105-110. Swims ketone came over last nite betwen 95-98. Now... When my safrole distilled the vacuum read about 29-29.25. Now last nite, after reading a post discussing lubricating your thermometer plastic coupler for the adapter, the vacuum read like 29.85-30. Swim couldnt even determine whether or not it was on 30 or not it was that close. Now is this feasible? My ketone looks to be exactly as described by many bees, yellow with a hint of green. Swim yielded about 55-60 ml.

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    r2e3
(Stranger)
12-22-03 10:39
No 478477
      woa!     

sounds like you have one of those rotary vane oil pumps - ultra powerful. maybe the best thing would be to distill some iso or saf to see at what temp they come over at.
 
 
 
 
    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-22-03 10:59
No 478481
      Well i did     

Swim did redistill my safrole right before the wacker but then the day after swim went and found a post talking about how important it is to grease up the therm coupler. So he did and now he can visibly see a difference in the vacuum guage. Its right on 30. Swims using a Ritchie Yellow Jacket 4 CFM fridge pump? Swim thinks its a fridge pump swims not really sure heh.

So... Swim distilled about 60mls of ketone last nite at about 97 with a bath temp of like 120ish. So today swim thought, swim... you might as well try to get more out of it and cook it up really high so swim turned back on the vacuum, same 30", heated the shit up to about 145 on the oil bath and sure enough more ketone is coming over as swim speaks. smile    Swim bets theres another 15-20 ml in the receiver with more on the way. Same exact stuff, nice yellow green colored.
Now, swims question still remains... can swim distill ketone at 95 degrees under 30" of vacuum? If someone replys and is like yeah swims done this before, swims going to go and get me some crystalle(sp?)... ya know that shit that puff daddy drinks heh.

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    spectralmagic
(A Different Title)
12-22-03 11:22
No 478485
      I'm feeling generous...     

I'm feeling generous...

../rhodium /equipment/conversion.html
../rhodium /equipment/nomograph.html

So, using the those links, and an estimated atmospheric bp for ketone of 286 C (if it didn't decompose before that temp), then if you're pulling ketone over at 97 C, this would indicate a vacuum of roughly 0.6 mmHg, or roughly 29.9"

They call them fingers, but I never see them fing... oh, there they go.
 
 
 
 
    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-22-03 11:45
No 478488
      No shit thanks magic.     

No shit thanks magic. smile

Is there some sort of test to test if it is?

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    spectralmagic
(A Different Title)
12-22-03 12:09
No 478492
      Alright, now you get it...     

Alright, now you get it... tongue

UTFSE

Search for "ketone" and "test"...  Oh, alright, another freebie, add "bisulfite" to the search as well... wink

They call them fingers, but I never see them fing... oh, there they go.
 
 
 
 
    pickler
(Greenhorn)
12-22-03 13:40
No 478504
      Swim has used the same vac you have and those...     

Swim has used the same vac you have and those temps are about right. Swim has seen safrole come over at 62-65C and ketone at 85-96c. Congrats on your ketone.

I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin

 
 
 
 
    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-22-03 14:56
No 478527
      thanks pickler     

No fuckin shit lol hahah im so excited... now the al/hg smile
Hopefully swim will be e-tarded for new years laughlaughlaugh

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    chilly_willy
(Hive Bee)
12-25-03 00:22
No 478954
      sure..     

Its perfectly feasible to pull key at 98-100 deg. with one of those super hvac pumps.  You might want to be sure though that your sass comes over about 20-25 deg. lower than your key on that same pump.  If it smells like a sweet menthol that coats your fingers like motor oil you got it.  Do a "wet" reductive alkylation with it...you will be much happier with the results than the al/hg.

CW
cool

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    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-25-03 16:42
No 479050
      Oil like     

Its more yellow than green and it has an oil consistency, more more syruppy than water. I have no idea what this wet alkylation is, so ill utfse before asking smile

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    Bond_DoubleBond
(Stranger)
12-25-03 17:40
No 479058
      gotta love that smell.     

gotta love that smell.

put a drop on your tongue and if it's ketone, it should go numb tongue
 
 
 
 
    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-25-03 18:47
No 479065
      Well swim know its ketone.     

Well swim know its ketone. I mean its yellow, oily, and came over when it should have. What should it smell like?

Besides that, how safe is putting a drop on your tongue?

mr president theres drugs in our residents
 
 
 
 
    Bond_DoubleBond
(Stranger)
12-25-03 23:27
No 479085
      well, swim can't say with absolute certainty...     

well, swim can't say with absolute certainty that it's 100% safe, but after trying it once or twice, swim hasn't died or gone blind.

yet smile

you'll be fine wink
 
 
 
 
    gruns
(Hive Bee)
12-26-03 01:18
No 479099
      I love that smell too :) I managed to get a...     

I love that smell too :)  I managed to get a few drops on a favorite shirt of mine, and I'll be damned if I can still smell it on there after it comes out of the dryer (2 years).  It's getting weaker though... 

Oh, and it saturated a rubber stopper of mine as well, so if you have any of those in your set-up you will want to make sure and get rid of them as evidence as soon as you're done.

over and under, then back to the start
this sidewalk's bottom is the same as its top
 
 
 
 
    placebo
(arrogant bee of the day)
12-26-03 08:22
No 479140
      Desribe the smell. I have heard many peoples...     

Desribe the smell. I have heard many peoples opinions of the smell, (cardomen etc) But I don't think any of them prepared me for what it smells like. I love it.

I'm not fat, I'm just too short for my weight.
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    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-26-03 11:17
No 479156
      smell     

Swim thought it smelled a little minty or sumthin. It definately smells like somethin else that swim smelled before, but swim cant think of it. Yeah it definately smells nice, however swims still gonna pass on tasting it heh. Its like spearmint or sumthin?

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    VinnyC
(One Man Show)
12-26-03 14:21
No 479170
      Just place a tiny bit on the tip of your ...     

Just place a tiny bit on the tip of your tongue smile

"...somebody is feeding these damn animals booze." Fear & Loathing
 
 
 
 
    homeslice
(Hive Bee)
12-26-03 14:36
No 479173
      Ok 2 bees cant bee wrong so swim tried a tiny...     

Ok 2 bees cant bee wrong so swim tried a tiny little bit on the tip of his tongue. It definately feels weird, swim guesses it kinda went numb. Tastes like shit...

mr president theres drugs in our residents
 
 
 
 
    VinnyC
(One Man Show)
12-26-03 16:11
No 479179
      You will never forget that numb feeling!     

You will never forget that numb feeling!

It's like a wintergreen-spearmint sensation...

"...somebody is feeding these damn animals booze." Fear & Loathing
 
 
 
 
    cublium
(Hive Bee)
12-27-03 00:21
No 479248
      It smells something like cardamon and ...     

It smells something like cardamon and sometimes a bit like cucumber.
 
 
 
 
    r2e3
(Stranger)
12-29-03 12:31
No 479666
      wtf!     

gee - what type of fridge did that baby come out of....?
there i was thinking that it would be same as an aspirator...
learn something new everyday!

homeslice - big up on the sucess mate!