tone3721 (Newbee)
08-04-04 21:46
No 523647
      distilling sassafrass no vacuum     

ok,
Swim has used tfse to find info on this. Swim has been dreaming about distilling sassafrass without vacuum, as far as he/she can tell bp of safrole at normal atmospheric pressure=232 degrees c right? the only other thing swim would need to do different is "tent" the flask witth foil right? in other words wrap it with foil? Also i would need to use a fbf instead of a rbf right?

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    DoctorFeelgood
(Stranger)
08-05-04 01:20
No 523683
      buy a water aspirator     

and spent 20-30 bucks - very cheap. if not, consider freezing it -> use TFSE.
 
 
 
 
    Tdurden969
(Hive Bee)
08-05-04 01:28
No 523687
      Yea just freeze seperate it.     

Yea just freeze seperate it. UTFSE for the procedure

But you need to think about finding a vacuum source If you plan on making anything decent with the stuff.

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    r2e3
(Hive Bee)
08-05-04 02:00
No 523695
      aspirator     

at least - dont waste your money charing what you have got

freezing - yea - may or may not.. get desired result

bp is a wonderful thing
 
 
 
 
    XrLeap
(Hive Bee)
08-05-04 09:50
No 523781
      you can actually distill it under atm ...     

you can actually distill it under atm pressure, only about 1% of thingy will become char(no referrence, but experience). You can then use the distilled safrole as seed for crystallisation, watch out for the melting of your crystal seed.smile

oops i did it again
 
 
 
 
    r2e3
(Hive Bee)
08-06-04 20:23
No 524020
      fair call     

if it works it works. never tried it myself.
 
 
 
 
    OcoteaCymbarum
(Hive Bee)
08-07-04 13:54
No 524040
      Both safrole and iso can be distilled at 1 atm     

without any problems.
I have often used both vacuum and atm distillation for safrole with no difference with the end product.
Anyway, sassafras oil contains higher boiling constituents, so I've never seen any tar doing it at atm.
You will definitely need a vacuum pump or asspirator for later stages, but if you want to get away with distilling safrole no vacuum, feel free, no problem there.
 
 
 
 
    fnord
(Hive Bee)
08-09-04 17:27
No 524442
      dust off     

try useing a can of dust off(1,1 tetroflurathane?) turned upside down with a straw going into your sassy if the crystalls dont start
 
 
 
 
    EvilMadChemist
(Hive Bee)
08-09-04 18:35
No 524444
      hah , i happend to have 2 new bottles of Dust...     

hah , i have 2 new bottles of Dust off , but mine contain DiFluoroethane.

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    fnord
(Hive Bee)
08-09-04 20:40
No 524450
      itll still work     

itll still work every kind of dust off ive ran into spits out freezing gas when turned upside down and the gas evaporates completely(afaik) in a very short period of time, so if u have a crappy frezzer that dosent get to a suitable temp this could be your answer

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    tone3721
(Newbee)
08-09-04 22:30
No 524469
      um     

Freezing seems pretty plausible, swim has researched the subject a bit. However, swim wont be freezing it. Just wanted to know if i was right for the theoretical, atmospheric distillation of safrole. I realize that later stages would necesitate a vacuum.

much thanks for the input,
TONE

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