superman (Hive Bee)
08-05-04 16:17
No 523807
      forgive me if this is redundant, but i've...     

forgive me if this is redundant, but i've looked previously, and now again and can't seem to confirm my suspicion.  when checking the ph of a water/xylene mixture, obviosly the water is on the bottom.   if i remember correctly in high school they said to wet the ph papar and dip it into the np?   this sounds wrong.....

how do i measure the aqueus layer through the np?   do i have to empty it out and check then throw back into my sep. funnel?

thx,     just about to work up my first (hopefully) success!
 
 
 
 
    yei
(Stranger)
08-05-04 17:45
No 523819
      pipette?     

You might use a nice pipette, dip it right through the nonpolar layer, and draw out a sample.

If you are extracting something, you might just wait until you have basified it properly before adding nonpolar.

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    superman
(Hive Bee)
08-05-04 18:00
No 523823
      SWIM's just about to base my post rxn liquid.     

SWIM's just about to base my post rxn liquid.   after basing the xylene should contain 1-1.5g meth.   so i suppose then that SWIM would just drain some of the aqueuos layer from the separatory funnel and check it.

thx
 
 
 
 
    biffman
(Newbee)
08-05-04 22:03
No 523855
      Just use the stopper.     

If you are doing an extraction or wash with a separatory funnel, just touch the stopper of the flask right after shaking to the pH paper (or indicator) and it should show you pH.
 
 
 
 
    p2e3r4f5e6c7t8
(Hive Bee)
08-07-04 15:38
No 524055
      hhmmmm     

Swip uses a 20ml syringe to get a PH sample beneath the non-polar solvent (meth base)wink

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    biotechdude
(Hive Bee)
08-08-04 02:51
No 524176
      measuring pH of aqueous layer     

A syringe works well.  Use thin plastic extender tubing and/or glass capillary tubes to reach the aqueous layer.  If working with larger volumes, just tap off a small volume, measure, then pour back in.  Its all about relative mechanical loss... 

TIP - when lowering the syringe through the NP towards the aqueous, it will 'swallow' some NP up the tip.  To overcome this, draw up the syringe a little before lowering so that when it is in the aqueous, you can squeeze the syringe to clear it.  Then suck up the aqueous.