1-Benzylpiperazine -KrZ , Hive Novel Discourse


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	the Hive BB Novel Discourse 1-Benzylpiperazine profile \| register \| preferences \| faq \| search next newest topic \| next oldest topic Author Topic: 1-Benzylpiperazine KrZ Member posted 05-28-98 09:01 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This shit is pretty good the way it is (100mg feels about like a bump of meth).. But I was wondering about conversions to any other substances? Anybody familiar with the structure have any suggestions? 50 grams is 95 bucks Labrat Member posted 05-29-98 09:30 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It just so happened to be that I wanted to post about 1-benzylpiperazines too, but it seems everybody is reading PIHKAL nowadays. 1-Benzylpiperazine can be made in two good ways: 1)benzyl-chloride + piperazine + base 2)benzaldehyde + piperazine + reduction To make any analog substances (MDMA-, DOM-analogs) just use the substituted benzyl-chlorides or benzaldehydes. It could be possible to modify 1-benzylpiperazine itself, but I think the usual ring-modifications (e.g. bromination) in the phenylring will affect the piperazine ring too. Hope this helps. Lr/ Labrat Member posted 05-29-98 09:30 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It just so happened to be that I wanted to post about 1-benzylpiperazines too, but it seems everybody is reading PIHKAL nowadays. 1-Benzylpiperazine can be made in two good ways: 1)benzyl-chloride + piperazine + base 2)benzaldehyde + piperazine + reduction To make any analog substances (MDMA-, DOM-analogs) just use the substituted benzyl-chlorides or benzaldehydes. It could be possible to modify 1-benzylpiperazine itself, but I think the usual ring-modifications (e.g. bromination) in the phenylring will affect the piperazine ring too. Hope this helps. Lr/ Rhodium Administrator posted 05-29-98 12:23 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to JMC 29, 630-634 (1986) it is impossible to get mono-alkylated piperazine without using protecting groups on the other nitrogen. Rhodium Administrator posted 05-29-98 12:23 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to JMC 29, 630-634 (1986) it is impossible to get mono-alkylated piperazine without using protecting groups on the other nitrogen. Somniferous unregistered posted 06-13-98 10:42 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Krz... 50 grams for 95 bucks... Where?... Does JLF offer it?.. I was aware of CRSB having it in stock, but I don't know of any current "easy" suppliers of it.. Strange, I was just about to do a post suggesting possiblities with this one but it seems that you and the rest of the Gang were ahead of me... I mean I was JUST about to do a post on it, and happened to see your post... Hmmmmm... strange.... Well, I am off to Lurk some more and try and get a grasp on all this chem-speak that goes on here.. Ya'll are great.. Except for one thing... Staying up till the wee hours of the morni.......heck, till around noon of the next day...., reading ya'll's posts.. Learning more and more each day.. Now, tis time for me to get "with it" and take a chemitry course, dontcha think? So, anyway, if Jlf does carry it, that would be news to me...(I guess if I had that darned catalog handy, I would know already..) Later... Somniferous unregistered posted 06-13-98 10:42 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Krz... 50 grams for 95 bucks... Where?... Does JLF offer it?.. I was aware of CRSB having it in stock, but I don't know of any current "easy" suppliers of it.. Strange, I was just about to do a post suggesting possiblities with this one but it seems that you and the rest of the Gang were ahead of me... I mean I was JUST about to do a post on it, and happened to see your post... Hmmmmm... strange.... Well, I am off to Lurk some more and try and get a grasp on all this chem-speak that goes on here.. Ya'll are great.. Except for one thing... Staying up till the wee hours of the morni.......heck, till around noon of the next day...., reading ya'll's posts.. Learning more and more each day.. Now, tis time for me to get "with it" and take a chemitry course, dontcha think? So, anyway, if Jlf does carry it, that would be news to me...(I guess if I had that darned catalog handy, I would know already..) Later... Commodium Member posted 06-15-98 04:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, JLF will sell you 55g (liquid) for $95, but they are currently out of stock. What up, S/K-buddy? wink, wink Commodium Member posted 06-15-98 04:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, JLF will sell you 55g (liquid) for $95, but they are currently out of stock. What up, S/K-buddy? wink, wink All times are CT (US) next newest topic \| next oldest topic Administrative Options: Close Topic \| Archive/Move \| Delete Topic Hop to: Select a Forum or ArchiveList of Forums:General DiscussionAcquisition DiscourseChemistry DiscourseMethods DiscourseNovel DiscourseCrystal MethSerious Chemistry ForumThe Hive CouchSerious Tryptamine DiscourseAdmin Chill-out TentList of Archives:Couch ArchivesClassics!Law and OrderThe litter box.misc. PEAs Contact Us \| the Hive Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Version 5.39a © Infopop Corporation (formerly Madrona Park, Inc.), 1998 - 1999.